Patch 1.4.3 - Preview Blog - Page 108

On February 11 2012 10:45 slytown wrote:
I like the mule change but I think gold bases should be done with period.

Most people dont use snipe except for BLs, so it doesnt effect TvZ too much.

I like the APM switchback as well. Can't really complain as a terran.

On February 11 2012 10:42 shizna wrote:
great point gosi made about blizzard's balancing action is to fast and almost telling us how to play the game, which is indeed boring.

i didn't expect it to hit me so hard, but the thought of snipe being a complete anti-caster spell on the same unit which has EMP... urgh... to be honest it makes me feel like not even playing anymore and like i've wasted so many hours of my time learning to mix ghosts into my play over the last few weeks.


with a nerfed snipe, bio doesn't have any late game dps unit when marines become almost obsolete. it's like blizzard are forcing terran to have that stomach churning concoction of thors, vikings, tanks, ravens, ghosts, marines, marauders and medivacs.... such a colourful pool of vomic composition, all of that effort and you still have a rediculously hard time versus broodlord/ultra infestor or archon/zealot templar.

On February 11 2012 10:46 darkness wrote:
Do HTs get affected by the new snipe? Do they still die in the same amount of shots? 2?

On February 11 2012 10:46 darkness wrote:
Do HTs get affected by the new snipe? Do they still die in the same amount of shots? 2?

On February 11 2012 09:50 Dingobloo wrote:
Some Snipe Numbers:
Protoss:
Zealots: now 6 snipes up from 4
High Templar: 2 no change.

Terran:
SCV: 2 up from 1
Marauders: now 5 snipes up from 3
Marine (no combat): now 2 up from 1
Marine (combat): now 3 up from 2
Ghost: 2 down from 3
Reaper: 2 no change

Zerg: (does not include regen)
Larva: 1 no change
Drone: 2 up from 1
Ling: 2 up from 1
Queen: 4 no change (Queens are Psionic)
Roach: 6 up from 3
Baneling: 2 up from 1
Hydralisk: 4 up from 2
Infestor: 2 no change.
Mutalisk: 5 up from 3
Corruptor: 8 up from 5

and from the post:
Ultralisk: 19 up from 11
Broodlord: 10 up from 6

On February 11 2012 10:46 darkness wrote:
Do HTs get affected by the new snipe? Do they still die in the same amount of shots? 2?

On February 11 2012 10:48 Dingobloo wrote:


Yes

On February 11 2012 10:48 lachy89 wrote:
Zerg player

APM change > Awesome
Pheonix Change > I like it
Mule Change > Seems fine to me
Ghost Change > a bit too much, make snipe unusable on Massive and be done with it.

We felt that the Snipe ability was countering broodlords and ultralisks slightly too well, but we wanted the Snipe ability to remain viable in the matchup. It’s important to keep in mind that zerg’s late game strength is not derived exclusively from their tier 3 units; much of their late game strength comes as a result of their ability to combine these higher tech units with other units, especially infestors. Accordingly, we elected to lower the ability’s base damage to increase the number of Snipes required to kill ultralisks and broodlords and supplement it by having it deal additional damage to Psionic units to reduce the number of snipes required to kill infestors.

We wanted to improve Snipe’s effectiveness against infestors since EMPs can be difficult to land due to the unit’s size, so we decided to increase the amount of total damage it deals to against Psionic units only. Making the ability deal 30 + 15 Light would reduce its effectiveness versus broodlords and ultralisks, but it would not provide the desired effect versus infestors. In fact, changing the bonus damage to + Light would make it more difficult to kill infestors, and we believe this would further weaken terran late game versus zerg. We understand that this change will require terran players to use more Snipes versus a variety of other units; however, we do not feel as if this will have a noticeable effect on balance since the ability isn’t used frequently versus units other than broodlords, ultralisks, infestors, and high templar. Our desire is not to redesign the ability or redefine the ghost’s role in the TvZ matchup, but to reduce its effectiveness versus broodlords and ultralisks while increasing its effectiveness versus infestors.

We appreciate all the constructive feedback we’ve received thus far. As a reminder, you’ll be able to test these changes first-hand once Patch 1.4.3 is placed on the PTR in the coming weeks, so we encourage you to try it out and let us know what you think.

On February 11 2012 10:51 On_Slaught wrote:


Seems like making Snipe unusable on Massive Units would have been a solution that made much more sense. The 2 shot infestor is nice tho.

On February 11 2012 10:51 Murlox wrote:
Additional blizzard employee comment :



http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4044464943?page=2


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On a side note, make banelings psionic!!!

On February 11 2012 10:53 TechN9ne wrote:
I love all the changes!!!! A more effective way to deal with Muta's thank god!