EPThonestly though, with the addition of phase shield that makes skytoss pretty strong against infestors, i see the carrier making a big comeback as a mainstream unit.
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Morton
United States152 Posts
honestly though, with the addition of phase shield that makes skytoss pretty strong against infestors, i see the carrier making a big comeback as a mainstream unit. | ||
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esaul17
Canada547 Posts
On September 15 2012 08:38 Morton wrote: VICTOREEEEEEEEEEE honestly though, with the addition of phase shield that makes skytoss pretty strong against infestors, i see the carrier making a big comeback as a mainstream unit. Plus the mothership core recall. Allows you to do hit and run stuff to avoid fungals. Also, the oracle gives you some soft detection so you don't insta-die to cloak without a robo. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 15 2012 08:40 esaul17 wrote: Plus the mothership core recall. Allows you to do hit and run stuff to avoid fungals. Also, the oracle gives you some soft detection so you don't insta-die to cloak without a robo. Very true. A huge disadvantage to the carrier was that any carriers you attack with, you know you aren't going to get back. With recall, you can go balls deep and still get out alive. And considering how much shields carriers have, it could perhaps even be OP... | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On September 15 2012 08:44 Mohdoo wrote: Very true. A huge disadvantage to the carrier was that any carriers you attack with, you know you aren't going to get back. With recall, you can go balls deep and still get out alive. And considering how much shields carriers have, it could perhaps even be OP... Yes and no. Recall is readily available to the carrier once it's out as well in WoL -- it's just cheaper. It'd have to be a hugely late game or a monumental swing in the meta game to get to the point where you're recalling more than just a few carriers and not your entire ball. (focus a base, recall, etc.) | ||
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uLysSeS1
Germany210 Posts
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Supert0fu
United States499 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On September 15 2012 09:53 Supert0fu wrote: Why do people want this unit so bad? It was only ever good vs mech in pvt, I think people expect it should be able to killl everything, which it shouldn't. In starcraft II, carriers are used a lot against zergs actually... | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On September 15 2012 09:53 Supert0fu wrote: Why do people want this unit so bad? It was only ever good vs mech in pvt, I think people expect it should be able to killl everything, which it shouldn't. Lol k, make random exaggerations to substitute the lack of a point. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2633 Posts
I will give a hug to anyone. VICTORY. | ||
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Zoraque
Canada120 Posts
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Supert0fu
United States499 Posts
On September 15 2012 10:00 rd wrote: Lol k, make random exaggerations to substitute the lack of a point. Good point there buddy. Made no exaggerations, in bw only really good vs a meching terran. In sc2 good vs terran mech and z late gate. People act like it's so underpowered when protoss have been seriously underestimating it, because they been so focused on 2 base allins. The fact of the matter is, the carrier was never that good of a unit in bw and drastic changes aren't needed. | ||
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Troxle
United States486 Posts
On September 15 2012 09:55 neoghaleon55 wrote: In starcraft II, carriers are used a lot against zergs actually... And you realize most of those games Zerg win right? Protoss has been tryin' to incorporate Carriers but they just aren't that strong realistically speakin'. They can be used, but they are so easily countered...I mean sure, Mothership, Carrier, and Archon versus Zerg is really strong, but that's so late into the game... | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On September 15 2012 09:53 Supert0fu wrote: Why do people want this unit so bad? It was only ever good vs mech in pvt, I think people expect it should be able to killl everything, which it shouldn't. Yeah you're right. THere's not 2 base all ins that wreck terrans. Late game carriers wreck terran too, even if he is going bio. They're almost always good against zerg as well. hmm that's 2/3 matchups. More usefullness than ghosts. That's why people want it. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On September 15 2012 10:35 Supert0fu wrote: Good point there buddy. Made no exaggerations, in bw only really good vs a meching terran. In sc2 good vs terran mech and z late gate. People act like it's so underpowered when protoss have been seriously underestimating it, because they been so focused on 2 base allins. The fact of the matter is, the carrier was never that good of a unit in bw and drastic changes aren't needed. Woah woah, you go from one exaggeration (not the BW comment) to another, even more ignorant generalization of Protoss. Seriously, what on this earth do you know that no one else apparently does? Obviously every available Protoss is too busy in the labs innovating new two base all-ins. We're understaffed. | ||
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