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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
no u see peopel can still break into the scene, its just easier than like a year ago. you wont get like, a massive burst of popularity, but say im like good n shit, playing on US server, i see say, destiny on ladder. we have a good game, im like yo, lets play 2v2's. then we play 2v2's im on his skype talking n shit. if im intresting enough then some of the people on his stream will come and watch mine or something, idk. (not that that's gunna happen, im a diamond lvl sea player lol) | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
On January 25 2012 20:29 LaLuSh wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298240 OP's numbers might still be correct since there is no Season 5 data aside from sc2ranks. yes, but all the numbers i can find on sc2ranks indicate that the difference is pretty much as big now as it was during s4 | ||
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kevint
Denmark42 Posts
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redDuke
Australia207 Posts
On January 25 2012 19:06 Omar91 wrote: I for one stop playing because TvP is so fucking retarded, Collosus-Chargelots-Storm-FF made me rage quit the game, I was high diamond. micro? Yeah I kinda get annoyed that non-korean teams are picking up koreans coz I'd love to see truly great non-korean teams start to form by taking in and training up promising talent, and keeping those who are alrealy great and trying to propel them higher. | ||
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Ewic
Canada121 Posts
I've finally hit GM, I've taken games off notable names on ladder... But who's going to watch my stream? What team would want me (and pay)? Nobody. One thing that REALLY upsets me is one of the few ways I could be making money playing this game is through something like Playhem... I have been to the semi's before, and quarters many times... But who takes the crown away? The same Koreans (Revival, Golden, Rainbow, Illusion) etc... Like seriously... I would be a lot more motivated to play if the chances of me actually winning anything were improved by removing said players. /rant... | ||
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cydial
United States750 Posts
On January 25 2012 19:10 iky43210 wrote: There's also another big difference between pro in Korea and NA. Teams in NA pick up players only if they can get the viewers (stated by incontrol). Teams in Korea pick up players if they are good or have potential Its sad Players like ailuJ are perfect examples of this. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
This should definitely be taken into consideration for tournament organizers | ||
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
On January 25 2012 20:31 desRow wrote: Good article, one of the reason I'm in Korea and plan to stay here until I stop playing. And it will become a lot worse once BW teams switch. I didn't know you were in korea :D But yeah i guess my comment would be if i were trying to go pro id take the violet route and plan to play everyday and compete in tournies everyday, with the goal being to improve to win tournies....making a name for myself hopefully? Idk | ||
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slmw
Finland233 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tvXq4.png) What did we do differently? Here's the data: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6BXU2.png) | ||
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edzwoo
United States469 Posts
So yeah there might be a period where foreigners are sparse, but new talents are going to come up as SC2 becomes more popular and accepted. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On January 25 2012 20:44 Ewic wrote: I really take what you said to heart because the situation you described is exactly where I'm at. I've finally hit GM, I've taken games off notable names on ladder... But who's going to watch my stream? What team would want me (and pay)? Nobody. One thing that REALLY upsets me is one of the few ways I could be making money playing this game is through something like Playhem... I have been to the semi's before, and quarters many times... But who takes the crown away? The same Koreans (Revival, Golden, Rainbow, Illusion) etc... Like seriously... I would be a lot more motivated to play if the chances of me actually winning anything were improved by removing said players. /rant... You find it upsetting that players who are better than you are winning the tournaments you do play in? If you went to Mlg and lost would you find it upsetting that the same people are always reaching the top 4, top 8, top 16, top 32? would you be more motivated to play if your chances of winning were improved by removing said players? | ||
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Alexj
Ukraine440 Posts
Too many people bash on events that don't have highest level Koreans in them. The events that help foreign players to get noticed are very important, but many forum/reddit posters are obnoxiosly vocal about how they don't care about "lesser" players. Shut the fuck up already. By the way, in Russia/CIS soon there will be a big online league for all skill levels (Sc2tv.ru Non-stop Games league), they have a structure similar to GSL, except they have more tiers -- from Code S, Code A, Code B all the way to Code F. I think this is exactly what OP asks for. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On January 25 2012 20:44 Ewic wrote: But who takes the crown away? The same Koreans (Revival, Golden, Rainbow, Illusion) etc... Like seriously... I would be a lot more motivated to play if the chances of me actually winning anything were improved by removing said players. They should be removed because they play better? Isnt that the way the competition should work? Remove all South America and Europe players from football World cup, so that African or any other national team could win it. | ||
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Ewic
Canada121 Posts
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Nihilnovi
Sweden696 Posts
On January 25 2012 20:59 Ewic wrote: @ dapierow & NightOfTheDead - I'm echoing what the OP is saying - tournaments are being won by the same people over and over again and there is little room for up-and-coming players to be noticed or win anything. I think you would understand when you devote as much time into this game I have and haven't received $1 for it. In response to this, I think it's a matter of that there are no new players. SC2 has a very small player base and for 2012 it's all set in terms of e-sports viewership but I really do wonder if it will be around for 2013 unless HotS turns out to be amazing  | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On January 25 2012 20:59 Ewic wrote: @ dapierow & NightOfTheDead - I'm echoing what the OP is saying - tournaments are being won by the same people over and over again and there is little room for up-and-coming players to be noticed or win anything. I think you would understand when you devote as much time into this game I have and haven't received $1 for it. I'm sorry but that is an absurd statement... imagine your a pretty good basketball or football player and you tell someone Ive devoted so much time into this game and I haven't received $1 for it. | ||
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Aela
97 Posts
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On January 25 2012 21:09 Aela wrote: All people I know stopped playing. There is just no reason to ladder if you know you will never make money with it. Whenever someone posts something like this it just makes me sad. The reason people play is to have fun, goddamn. | ||
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