Carmac responds to IEM Criticism: "Bring on the pitchforks…

On January 20 2012 15:41 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Actually, in Guangzhou I had the same fps drop to 10 in both my games vs Jim... I didn't complain much because I thought I had lost the games anyway, and I assumed it was just an isolated incidence --- But since it's happening the exact same way here in Kiev it makes me wonder whether there's something wrong with the computers you are using?

On January 20 2012 15:40 Geisterkarle wrote:
I will get some red script down there but:

LAN Mode needed!!

On January 20 2012 18:09 bLah. wrote:


you don't know if you think it would require to recode most of the game. That wouldn't be true even for a whole game, let alone for tournaments where they'd need only small server connected with PCs in LAN. They won't do it because they are afraid that someone will steal server files and then make cracked servers.
That's the only reason why they don't do it.

On January 20 2012 19:27 pallad wrote:


Stop already with this WE need lan , NOOOOOOOO we dont need a lan in sc2.
Lags problems etc in sc2 happends in 5-10 games from 200-300 or even more played!!.

You watch 200-400 games without lag ... and when i happend in some random games , community cry wy wanna lan , its just stupid.

While the Counter-Strike 1.6 and League of Legends tournaments were running completely fine and without any issues (technical or ping-related), the SC2 tournament was plagued with difficulties:
- Players had lag that affected gameplay and sometimes the result (naniwa and, to a lesser degree, Strelok);

- Naniwa voiced concerns to the referee that he had lag issues (other players also). As it turned out their lag spikes were not at all as bad as naniwa's. One of the players intervened and convinced naniwa that by changing some network settings and shutting off some software the connection would be fixed. Naniwa got talked into playing - as it turned out it was a mistake not to put him on another PC (the reasoning being that all players claimed to have some spikes).

- Meanwhile, I spent almost the entire day investigating the root of the problem. I spent a lot of the time on the phone with Blizzard's employees, talking to the local IT masterminds who called the local ISP (100Mbit line for gaming only, remember). I asked for the group play to be halted because that time could have allowed us to find the solution.

Here is what we did in order to fix this issue:
- call Blizzard countless times to make sure it's not a routing issue;
- call the local ISP countless times to do the same;
- test other PCs in the gaming center to see if the same issues occur (they are the same configuration - some lagged, others did not);

On January 20 2012 08:42 Thorzain wrote:
Everyone i spoke to that are at the event (4-5 players) were telling me that the computers were the issue, that they were crap. Not that the connection was faulty.

On January 20 2012 08:34 delchuu wrote:
I dont get it anyways why no Lan Support anymore :O

On January 20 2012 20:47 tapk69 wrote:
Even if 10k people say its the PCs .. a simple LAN mode would turn a bad PC on a Supercomputer , sorry..

I have a Laptop with 4 years that can handle Starcraft2 on Low with 200/200 armys , even if the PCs at this event were bad , explain me the lag i see at KSL , GSL , HSC ...

Sc2 is a fail in Korea because it has no Lan and spawn installation! Blizzard killed the sport because they tried to have the monopoly of it. Who is going to watch SC2 if they never played or had contact with the game?

Sorry for steaming but this is like selling a Ferrari with 100 Mph top speed.

On January 20 2012 21:02 serpix wrote:








your post is just a political damage control post that is trying to reroute ( indirectly) the blame on Blizz( its so easy to start LAN drama)

- the Arena IT have set up completely fresh Windows PCs with SC2 only on them - those will be the machines used in the remainder of the tournament;