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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On January 20 2012 11:05 ForlornHope wrote: REGAME BETWEEN NIGHTEND AND ZENIO http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/news/182718/ Good call from admins. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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Meki
Netherlands97 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
They aren't on bnet 2.0. I don't want this to seem like a low blow but tbh they are on different infrastructures. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On January 20 2012 07:02 Flonomenalz wrote: lol guys nightend was still 2-3 bases against what, 4-5 base? nightned still had nearly no money compared to like 5k bank for zenio? i mean zenio played badly, but nightend made mistakes too, and even though he would have won that battle, i still doubt he wins the game. still, that doesn't excuse the lag, but I feel for IEM, there's only so much you can do. Blizzard is the biggest culprit, I don't know and still don't know why they refuse LAN support. NO developer is going to be using LAN, look at any AAA title in the last three years, none of them have a DRM free LAN, you simply cannot afford to do it in this day and age, I wish I remember the link but at the Game Developers Conference a developer was giving a seminar on why companies wont be doing LAN unless multiple things change. Honestly DO NOT expect Lan, it will NEVER come, so yes you can "blame" blizzard but nothing is going to change tl:dr, LAN = less control, expect NO developer to offer it in the near future | ||
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gardinho
Germany368 Posts
they send some guys over that host the lan mode on their server at the event and take it with them when the tournaments over. it would be a system that would be just fine for larger tournaments or GSL e.g. | ||
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
Yes good way to kill the tournament. If the lag is bother them that much stop the fucking game. | ||
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Uranium
United States1077 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
But credit to carmac for acknowledging the fuck up. | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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MageKirby
United States535 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
On January 20 2012 11:31 taLbuk wrote: NO developer is going to be using LAN, look at any AAA title in the last three years, none of them have a DRM free LAN, you simply cannot afford to do it in this day and age, I wish I remember the link but at the Game Developers Conference a developer was giving a seminar on why companies wont be doing LAN unless multiple things change. Honestly DO NOT expect Lan, it will NEVER come, so yes you can "blame" blizzard but nothing is going to change tl:dr, LAN = less control, expect NO developer to offer it in the near future That's the thing, they don't need to do regular Lan. They could make a "battlenet in a box" type server with clients that ONLY work on it and nothing else. Then just have 3 or 4 of these available upon request in each region for major lan events (and charge a reasonable fee for setup and to have security for them, a blizzard employee who operates it and ensures no outside party has access to the server) It would basically just be a way to take the internet out of the equation and at the same time ensure Blizzard maintains the level of control they currently have. The bottom line is that Blizzard is hurting their own bottom line by having so many fail-full events due to these kinds of issues. It's got to be really hard for newcomers to take esports seriously when they see this kind of stuff. Starcraft 2's long term growth and demand is directly related to the success it has in esports. I lost count 6 months ago of how many major events have had serious problems due to the necessity of play being done through the internet. The fact that they haven't addressed this issue and setup some kind of closed server for tournament says to me that Blizzard doesn't really care, half as much as they claim to, about E-Sports. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On January 20 2012 12:05 MageKirby wrote: Blizz really should make a LAN mode just for the tournament people. srsly.... Its funny because a long tiem ago blizzard stated they would make LAN mode available for tournaments only. But it never happened. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
SWEET!!! That is an excellent call, but it should've occurred as soon as the lag spike was huge and NightEnd paused the game. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
Everything that I've read about seems to be a bit ambiguous, but did NightEnD only start complaining about the lag after the game, or did he request the rematch at the time that he was lagging. Also the actual effect of the lag needs to be taken into account, as I believe it was Kennigit who tweeted that Zenio was on 5 base vs 2 base and was floating something like ~2000 minerals. At that point I find it hard to believe that lag had much of a factor into NightEnD's play. I think something like that--that is if you're going to give rematches--should be handled like a challenge in a tennis match, where the player must immediately make the request as soon as the "game-changing" lag occurs. Then the game should be paused, have the tournament evaluate the situation, discover the validity of the situation, and either resume the game or offer the rematch. Everything surrounding this seems really convoluted, but I'm happy to see Carmac standing by his guns and trying to help clarify the situation. Thank you very much. | ||
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
EDIT: Wait, they're complaining about lag with tons of observers that aren't there at the tournament? What a joke  | ||
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Herper
501 Posts
On January 20 2012 11:31 taLbuk wrote: NO developer is going to be using LAN, look at any AAA title in the last three years, none of them have a DRM free LAN, you simply cannot afford to do it in this day and age, I wish I remember the link but at the Game Developers Conference a developer was giving a seminar on why companies wont be doing LAN unless multiple things change. Honestly DO NOT expect Lan, it will NEVER come, so yes you can "blame" blizzard but nothing is going to change tl:dr, LAN = less control, expect NO developer to offer it in the near future Valve titles always have had and still have LAN. You just need to get through steam login, and you are done. | ||
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