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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:43 MooMu wrote: "I have played single player sc2 on the tournament PCs. Not a single glitch." This is a joke, right? Like... I can't even. Sadly, it seems serious. Ignorance is bliss...? | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Ippo
708 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:46 EvilTeletubby wrote: Before even reading the replies in this thread, my initial reaction is that it's completely Blizzard's fault that anyone is even put in this position in the first place. The decision to not release LAN is a serious, serious fuckover to every legitimate player and follower.  Then you read the comments, especially the one made by Thorzain, and realize what you just blindly stated is completely wrong regarding this specific situation, and only help point blame somewhere else rather than getting to the bottom of things and maybe inducing a change in the hardware for the next IEM event. Carmac stated he tested the PC configuration in single player mode only, which in itself is a complete joke. I understand your position here at TL, but because of that, you certainly shouldnt be throwing out blind assumptions. | ||
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MooMu
Canada615 Posts
Rather, give me specs. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:40 EtherealDeath wrote: This is wrong because Chinese hackers have already created a pseudo-server which allows them to run SC2 on a LAN. Won't post any links or d/l since that's not allowed here, but go look it up for yourself if you're interested. It has been done. Blizzard just won't make an official version for tournaments. The chinese hack is a private server setup, not LAN. And this doesn't disprove his post at all, you create a private b.net emulation server and connect the player clients to that | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
*again, note that there was lag in multiplayer even in small battles, which is very suspicious to be from the hardware. | ||
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leviathan400
United Kingdom393 Posts
No need for LAN tournaments to have problems when they have a LAN. | ||
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greenknight999
69 Posts
I'm sure the professionals can turn their settings down, possibly need to get new pcs in for the casters for streaming though. If any pro is playing on high settings tomorrow then all I can say is that;s not very professional. Sympathy for the guys that lost out because of it though. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:46 EvilTeletubby wrote: Before even reading the replies in this thread, my initial reaction is that it's completely Blizzard's fault that anyone is even put in this position in the first place. The decision to not release LAN is a serious, serious fuckover to every legitimate player and follower. Seriously, I don't want to say it but its entirely possible that no LAN might kill SC2. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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MooMu
Canada615 Posts
On January 20 2012 10:14 Diamond wrote: Didn't they have observers not at location in the game? Apparently. And why? | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
If so then LAN would not have mattered since they would have to get the observers in. There's the restream but ESL seems to prefer to have a ton of observers which is a known way to lag up a game. | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
With this setup LAN is impossible. Good point diamond, though a little convoluted  | ||
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morbvs
Germany358 Posts
The only thing I would change is the high number of observers... isn't it possible that they just restream the english main stream? Might reduce the quality on their stream but it's more important to minimize the risk of lagspikes... | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On January 20 2012 10:17 Diamond wrote: If so then LAN would not have mattered since they would have to get the observers in. There's the restream but ESL seems to prefer to have a ton of observers which is a known way to lag up a game. But if lan would have been available don't you think they would have had some at the tournament... | ||
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Lawliet
United States70 Posts
You've already got our money, adding LAN now won't hurt your profits! Or at the very least give people holding tournaments capability to serve dedicated servers sans internet. I mean honestly. You make people pay to host tourneys and stick your name all over the place. Lagging and Bnet drops are friggen embarrasses you more than anyone else. Yeah IEM had some turd things happen but lags and drops happen once in a while in GSL too. FRIGGEN GSL! The organization that has been doing this for like a year still have dropped or laggy games. There has been more lag/drop/technical issues in this short 1 year of SC2 than there has been in BW's whole entire lifespan (thus far). PLEASE BLIZZ! PLEASE! We won't stop laddering just give us LAN! | ||
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kheldorin
Singapore539 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:56 eXigent. wrote: Then you read the comments, especially the one made by Thorzain, and realize what you just blindly stated is completely wrong regarding this specific situation, and only help point blame somewhere else rather than getting to the bottom of things and maybe inducing a change in the hardware for the next IEM event. Carmac stated he tested the PC configuration in single player mode only, which in itself is a complete joke. I understand your position here at TL, but because of that, you certainly shouldnt be throwing out blind assumptions. Why is it a joke when it's supposed to rule out any local issues? If you test it out in multi-player, you still won't know whether the issue is the computer hardware or a connection issue. | ||
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ForlornHope
Vietnam111 Posts
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
On January 20 2012 07:48 gulati wrote: You have my support Carmac. I seriously just hope Blizzard pulls their equity-driven ego's out of their asses and realize that without LAN support for any and ALL tournaments, there will never, ever, ever, EVER be a chance to have SC2 televised. EVER. Good luck with the rest of the tournament, and if anybody from Blizzard is reading: There's a reason I switched to SWTOR and back to Brood War. What about LoL? No LAN required... | ||
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