Im talking about their skill AS WE SPEAK!
Evil Geniuses Sign JYP - Page 28
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Im talking about their skill AS WE SPEAK! | ||
GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B | ||
Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
well, Puma was busy winning more than 100k this year... | ||
Smartwater
United States35 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 31 2011 21:39 Hardigan wrote: well, Puma was busy winning more than 100k this year... no he wasnt, your just counting exactly from nasl1 - nasl2. stinks of blind fanboyism. this year puma won nasl2 and hero won dreamhack, id say they make a good rivalry | ||
Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
On December 31 2011 21:42 turdburgler wrote: no he wasnt, your just counting exactly from nasl1 - nasl2. stinks of blind fanboyism. this year puma won nasl2 and hero won dreamhack, id say they make a good rivalry what? why?... what about 1st IEM cologne? and 2nd in Dreamhack? And I never said they are not rivals | ||
Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
Extremely difficult to compare the 2 based on results. Hero is in code A while PuMa is in code B, but PuMas won 2 NASL's while Heros won dreamhack... you could go back and forth forever. At the end of the day, PuMa has more than twice Hero's earnings in sc2.. so as you can see its pretty pointless going down this path. Theyre are both great.. one things forsure, we can look forward to more head to head matchups between the two. | ||
DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
How many koreans are allowed in the team for it to still be called a foreigner team? It's weird saying "They are the best foreign team because now they have x and z who are both koreans." As far as I know FXO is like 50% foreigners and the management n stuff is foreign-based. Is that a foreign team / mixed team / korean team? Just wondering ![]() | ||
Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On December 31 2011 21:45 DrPandaPhD wrote: To all people saying EG is the best foreigner team. How many koreans are allowed in the team for it to still be called a foreigner team? It's weird saying "They are the best foreign team because now they have x and z who are both koreans." As far as I know FXO is like 50% foreigners and the management n stuff is foreign-based. Is that a foreign team / mixed team / korean team? Just wondering ![]() EG is a foreigner team, and will always be as long as it's run by foreigner with an HQ outside of Kr. But if for instance they only have koreans in their sc2 squad, you can say: EG is a foreigner team with a korean sc2 division. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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FireFish
Denmark228 Posts
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Gesh
Bulgaria69 Posts
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
That's a retarded way to measure skill. Do you realize that if Hero loses his next bo3 he is out of code A? Would that suddenly make him a "code B" player inferior to every other player who is still in the GSL? | ||
kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On December 31 2011 21:15 Hardigan wrote: I think you might have missed the other thread. Yes, first everyone thought about JYP, because he was teamless, but after the silhouette it was all about grubby,moon,boxer and savior^^ and you might have missed the TL-thread about Zenio, lol but what do you mean with "knows how EG works"? One didn't need to read a bunch of opinions on dozens of posts to figure out it was JYP. Since the release of SC2, EG has never once signed a players 'cause of his potential or personality. Leave the whole "he fits perfectly into our team strategy and shares the same thoughts we do as to what the team goals and direction is" easy and politically correct kind of talk out of this. They sign players based on a combination of two things: accomplishment history and popularity. Look at their signings previous to JYP. IdrA, DeMuslim, Puma and HuK. IdrA was at the time by far the most well known and achieving foreign player in SC and a pivotal figure in E-Sports. DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre. Puma had just won the NASL Season 1 and HuK has always been a fan favorite plus he is an excellent player. This being said, what I meant with "this is how EG works" is that they don't look at expenses to make the best move marketing wise. They want EG to be at the top of the most of the revelant E-Sports related competitions. JYP was the only player that made sense for them to adquire at this point. Moon is back playing WC3 and has no accomplishments in SC2. Killer is in Code A and it would be an enormous risk to sign him provided he could easily fall into Code B. Grubby is a foreigner version of Moon. And when I say "marketing wise", I they don't take chances on players that can someday be good. They bet on sure things and safe values so that they can keep EG's name at the top. And before you start ramparting on me, I don't mean to say this is an incorrect or less noble managing strategy. This is the path they chose and thus far they've had tremendous success with it. There's nothing wrong with signing the best players. | ||
Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On December 31 2011 22:38 kiy0 wrote: One didn't need to read a bunch of opinions on dozens of posts to figure out it was JYP. Since the release of SC2, EG has never once signed a players 'cause of his potential or personality. Leave the whole "he fits perfectly into our team strategy and shares the same thoughts we do as to what the team goals and direction is" easy and politically correct kind of talk out of this. They sign players based on a combination of two things: accomplishment history and popularity. Look at their signings previous to JYP. IdrA, DeMuslim, Puma and HuK. IdrA was at the time by far the most well known and achieving foreign player in SC and a pivotal figure in E-Sports. DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre. Puma had just won the NASL Season 1 and HuK has always been a fan favorite plus he is an excellent player. This being said, what I meant with "this is how EG works" is that they don't look at expenses to make the best move marketing wise. They want EG to be at the top of the most of the revelant E-Sports related competitions. JYP was the only player that made sense for them to adquire at this point. Moon is back playing WC3 and has no accomplishments in SC2. Killer is in Code A and it would be an enormous risk to sign him provided he could easily fall into Code B. Grubby is a foreigner version of Moon. And when I say "marketing wise", I they don't take chances on players that can someday be good. They bet on sure things and safe values so that they can keep EG's name at the top. And before you start ramparting on me, I don't mean to say this is an incorrect or less noble managing strategy. This is the path they chose and thus far they've had tremendous success with it. There's nothing wrong with signing the best players. Please take your signature to heart. Alone DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre is laughable, especially in contradiction to the rest of your post. It doesn't make any sense. | ||
Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
For all the flak EG gets for picking up proven players, I don't see TL getting the same response despite doing the exact same thing. | ||
Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On December 31 2011 22:38 kiy0 wrote: One didn't need to read a bunch of opinions on dozens of posts to figure out it was JYP. Since the release of SC2, EG has never once signed a players 'cause of his potential or personality. Leave the whole "he fits perfectly into our team strategy and shares the same thoughts we do as to what the team goals and direction is" easy and politically correct kind of talk out of this. They sign players based on a combination of two things: accomplishment history and popularity. Look at their signings previous to JYP. IdrA, DeMuslim, Puma and HuK. IdrA was at the time by far the most well known and achieving foreign player in SC and a pivotal figure in E-Sports. DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre. Puma had just won the NASL Season 1 and HuK has always been a fan favorite plus he is an excellent player. This being said, what I meant with "this is how EG works" is that they don't look at expenses to make the best move marketing wise. They want EG to be at the top of the most of the revelant E-Sports related competitions. JYP was the only player that made sense for them to adquire at this point. Moon is back playing WC3 and has no accomplishments in SC2. Killer is in Code A and it would be an enormous risk to sign him provided he could easily fall into Code B. Grubby is a foreigner version of Moon. And when I say "marketing wise", I they don't take chances on players that can someday be good. They bet on sure things and safe values so that they can keep EG's name at the top. And before you start ramparting on me, I don't mean to say this is an incorrect or less noble managing strategy. This is the path they chose and thus far they've had tremendous success with it. There's nothing wrong with signing the best players. You realise that Moon came second at Dreamhack Winter and has better achievments in SC2 than Demuslim? | ||
prOpVikingBB2
Sweden273 Posts
Even though im a big TL fan i can't deny that this was one of the best things that could happen too EG. Probably the best free agent player/protoss put there. Another thing i noticed with TL and EG is that EG is a much more balanced team(in tearms of race distribution). EG has 2 terran, 4zergs and 4 protosses. TL on the other hand has 1 terran, 2 protosses and 5 zergs. I think TL are waiting for a good terran to be available beofre they counter pickup. | ||
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