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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
December 31 2011 12:33 GMT
#541
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.

Im talking about their skill AS WE SPEAK!
This is our town, scrub
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 31 2011 12:35 GMT
#542
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.


Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
December 31 2011 12:39 GMT
#543
On December 31 2011 21:35 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.


Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B

well, Puma was busy winning more than 100k this year...
Smartwater
Profile Joined September 2011
United States35 Posts
December 31 2011 12:41 GMT
#544
EG = stacked
Say it with yuh chest!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 31 2011 12:42 GMT
#545
On December 31 2011 21:39 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:35 GreyKnight wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.


Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B

well, Puma was busy winning more than 100k this year...


no he wasnt, your just counting exactly from nasl1 - nasl2. stinks of blind fanboyism. this year puma won nasl2 and hero won dreamhack, id say they make a good rivalry
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
December 31 2011 12:44 GMT
#546
On December 31 2011 21:42 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:39 Hardigan wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:35 GreyKnight wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.


Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B

well, Puma was busy winning more than 100k this year...


no he wasnt, your just counting exactly from nasl1 - nasl2. stinks of blind fanboyism. this year puma won nasl2 and hero won dreamhack, id say they make a good rivalry

what? why?...
what about 1st IEM cologne? and 2nd in Dreamhack?
And I never said they are not rivals
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 31 2011 12:45 GMT
#547
On December 31 2011 21:35 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.


Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B


Extremely difficult to compare the 2 based on results. Hero is in code A while PuMa is in code B, but PuMas won 2 NASL's while Heros won dreamhack... you could go back and forth forever. At the end of the day, PuMa has more than twice Hero's earnings in sc2.. so as you can see its pretty pointless going down this path.

Theyre are both great.. one things forsure, we can look forward to more head to head matchups between the two.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 31 2011 12:45 GMT
#548
To all people saying EG is the best foreigner team.

How many koreans are allowed in the team for it to still be called a foreigner team? It's weird saying "They are the best foreign team because now they have x and z who are both koreans."

As far as I know FXO is like 50% foreigners and the management n stuff is foreign-based. Is that a foreign team / mixed team / korean team?

Just wondering Happy new year
리노크 👑
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
December 31 2011 12:50 GMT
#549
On December 31 2011 21:45 DrPandaPhD wrote:
To all people saying EG is the best foreigner team.

How many koreans are allowed in the team for it to still be called a foreigner team? It's weird saying "They are the best foreign team because now they have x and z who are both koreans."

As far as I know FXO is like 50% foreigners and the management n stuff is foreign-based. Is that a foreign team / mixed team / korean team?

Just wondering Happy new year


EG is a foreigner team, and will always be as long as it's run by foreigner with an HQ outside of Kr.
But if for instance they only have koreans in their sc2 squad, you can say: EG is a foreigner team with a korean sc2 division.
wat
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 31 2011 12:52 GMT
#550
Also hero has the toss bonus points, while puma has the plays terran malus. So clearly hero > puma ... just kidding by the way. Anyway wish Jyp fun as an evil genius. *wishes the evil geniuses would be a strategy factory, with having such a team name*
FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
December 31 2011 12:58 GMT
#551
Very nice, but i were hoping for SangHo or Violet :D
Gesh
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria69 Posts
December 31 2011 13:04 GMT
#552
In the first minute I misread welcome "South Korea native Park" as "South Park, Korea native" and I thought 'wait, south park is in colorado' ...
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
December 31 2011 13:31 GMT
#553
On December 31 2011 21:35 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:29 Abrafred wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
team EG always making sure they get bettter players than team liquid, that's their business model

Puma>Hero
JYP>Zenio

I dont think Puma is better then Hero! Yay unjustified statements!

Compare their achievements.


Hero is in Code A, Puma is in Code B

That's a retarded way to measure skill.

Do you realize that if Hero loses his next bo3 he is out of code A? Would that suddenly make him a "code B" player inferior to every other player who is still in the GSL?
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 13:41:29
December 31 2011 13:38 GMT
#554
On December 31 2011 21:15 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:11 kiy0 wrote:
Worst kept secret ever. Anyone who marginally knows how EG works could have seen this coming. They wouldn't pass on the opportunity to add a player who was teamless yet competiting in the hardest league in the world.
That's how EG does it. The $ figure works a thon.

I think you might have missed the other thread. Yes, first everyone thought about JYP, because he was teamless, but after the silhouette it was all about grubby,moon,boxer and savior^^
and you might have missed the TL-thread about Zenio, lol

but what do you mean with "knows how EG works"?


One didn't need to read a bunch of opinions on dozens of posts to figure out it was JYP.

Since the release of SC2, EG has never once signed a players 'cause of his potential or personality. Leave the whole "he fits perfectly into our team strategy and shares the same thoughts we do as to what the team goals and direction is" easy and politically correct kind of talk out of this. They sign players based on a combination of two things: accomplishment history and popularity. Look at their signings previous to JYP. IdrA, DeMuslim, Puma and HuK. IdrA was at the time by far the most well known and achieving foreign player in SC and a pivotal figure in E-Sports. DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre. Puma had just won the NASL Season 1 and HuK has always been a fan favorite plus he is an excellent player.

This being said, what I meant with "this is how EG works" is that they don't look at expenses to make the best move marketing wise. They want EG to be at the top of the most of the revelant E-Sports related competitions. JYP was the only player that made sense for them to adquire at this point. Moon is back playing WC3 and has no accomplishments in SC2. Killer is in Code A and it would be an enormous risk to sign him provided he could easily fall into Code B. Grubby is a foreigner version of Moon. And when I say "marketing wise", I they don't take chances on players that can someday be good. They bet on sure things and safe values so that they can keep EG's name at the top.

And before you start ramparting on me, I don't mean to say this is an incorrect or less noble managing strategy. This is the path they chose and thus far they've had tremendous success with it. There's nothing wrong with signing the best players.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 13:47:06
December 31 2011 13:46 GMT
#555
On December 31 2011 22:38 kiy0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:15 Hardigan wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:11 kiy0 wrote:
Worst kept secret ever. Anyone who marginally knows how EG works could have seen this coming. They wouldn't pass on the opportunity to add a player who was teamless yet competiting in the hardest league in the world.
That's how EG does it. The $ figure works a thon.

I think you might have missed the other thread. Yes, first everyone thought about JYP, because he was teamless, but after the silhouette it was all about grubby,moon,boxer and savior^^
and you might have missed the TL-thread about Zenio, lol

but what do you mean with "knows how EG works"?


One didn't need to read a bunch of opinions on dozens of posts to figure out it was JYP.

Since the release of SC2, EG has never once signed a players 'cause of his potential or personality. Leave the whole "he fits perfectly into our team strategy and shares the same thoughts we do as to what the team goals and direction is" easy and politically correct kind of talk out of this. They sign players based on a combination of two things: accomplishment history and popularity. Look at their signings previous to JYP. IdrA, DeMuslim, Puma and HuK. IdrA was at the time by far the most well known and achieving foreign player in SC and a pivotal figure in E-Sports. DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre. Puma had just won the NASL Season 1 and HuK has always been a fan favorite plus he is an excellent player.

This being said, what I meant with "this is how EG works" is that they don't look at expenses to make the best move marketing wise. They want EG to be at the top of the most of the revelant E-Sports related competitions. JYP was the only player that made sense for them to adquire at this point. Moon is back playing WC3 and has no accomplishments in SC2. Killer is in Code A and it would be an enormous risk to sign him provided he could easily fall into Code B. Grubby is a foreigner version of Moon. And when I say "marketing wise", I they don't take chances on players that can someday be good. They bet on sure things and safe values so that they can keep EG's name at the top.

And before you start ramparting on me, I don't mean to say this is an incorrect or less noble managing strategy. This is the path they chose and thus far they've had tremendous success with it. There's nothing wrong with signing the best players.


Please take your signature to heart.
Alone
DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre
is laughable, especially in contradiction to the rest of your post. It doesn't make any sense.
wat
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
December 31 2011 13:49 GMT
#556
Awesome, nice to see EG picking up a toss which is actually innovative instead of ones that do the same builds from beta! :D Congrats JYP and EG!
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
December 31 2011 13:49 GMT
#557
At the rate we're going, eventually there will be only 2 starcraft 2 teams: SlayerS and EG.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 31 2011 13:50 GMT
#558
There is no path choice as you put it. Once your team is big enough, you always go for the big hitters. No EG/TL sized team will take an unnecessary risk on an unknown player. That's just moronic if you have any sense of logic. Once you're big enough, you will acquire the big hitters. That's that. Let the small teams take the risk.

For all the flak EG gets for picking up proven players, I don't see TL getting the same response despite doing the exact same thing.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
December 31 2011 14:00 GMT
#559
On December 31 2011 22:38 kiy0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:15 Hardigan wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:11 kiy0 wrote:
Worst kept secret ever. Anyone who marginally knows how EG works could have seen this coming. They wouldn't pass on the opportunity to add a player who was teamless yet competiting in the hardest league in the world.
That's how EG does it. The $ figure works a thon.

I think you might have missed the other thread. Yes, first everyone thought about JYP, because he was teamless, but after the silhouette it was all about grubby,moon,boxer and savior^^
and you might have missed the TL-thread about Zenio, lol

but what do you mean with "knows how EG works"?


One didn't need to read a bunch of opinions on dozens of posts to figure out it was JYP.

Since the release of SC2, EG has never once signed a players 'cause of his potential or personality. Leave the whole "he fits perfectly into our team strategy and shares the same thoughts we do as to what the team goals and direction is" easy and politically correct kind of talk out of this. They sign players based on a combination of two things: accomplishment history and popularity. Look at their signings previous to JYP. IdrA, DeMuslim, Puma and HuK. IdrA was at the time by far the most well known and achieving foreign player in SC and a pivotal figure in E-Sports. DeMuslim is a legend in the whole RTS genre. Puma had just won the NASL Season 1 and HuK has always been a fan favorite plus he is an excellent player.

This being said, what I meant with "this is how EG works" is that they don't look at expenses to make the best move marketing wise. They want EG to be at the top of the most of the revelant E-Sports related competitions. JYP was the only player that made sense for them to adquire at this point. Moon is back playing WC3 and has no accomplishments in SC2. Killer is in Code A and it would be an enormous risk to sign him provided he could easily fall into Code B. Grubby is a foreigner version of Moon. And when I say "marketing wise", I they don't take chances on players that can someday be good. They bet on sure things and safe values so that they can keep EG's name at the top.

And before you start ramparting on me, I don't mean to say this is an incorrect or less noble managing strategy. This is the path they chose and thus far they've had tremendous success with it. There's nothing wrong with signing the best players.

You realise that Moon came second at Dreamhack Winter and has better achievments in SC2 than Demuslim?
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prOpVikingBB2
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden273 Posts
December 31 2011 14:01 GMT
#560
Great pickup for EG!
Even though im a big TL fan i can't deny that this was one of the best things that could happen too EG. Probably the best free agent player/protoss put there.

Another thing i noticed with TL and EG is that EG is a much more balanced team(in tearms of race distribution). EG has 2 terran, 4zergs and 4 protosses. TL on the other hand has 1 terran, 2 protosses and 5 zergs. I think TL are waiting for a good terran to be available beofre they counter pickup.
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