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spbelky
United States623 Posts
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Nildawenn
United States9 Posts
On December 31 2011 02:41 Siphonn wrote: Try to get your parents to watch the Day 9 Daily #100, mine got a little understanding of it from there, shows the competitive side quite well also. Also the "1 Year of Starcraft" Video is good also, showcases a bunch of tournaments! I think the significance of this is that you're letting your parents know this is something truly important to you, and not just a passing fad you're a part of. Tell your parents how much SC2 means to you, and that you'd like them to be a part of it with you, even if it's just them watching the occasional tournament with you. If you are very good at describing what you're doing and why, it may be worth while to ask them watch you play a few ladder games and actively explain what you're doing. Answer any questions they may have, even if it's as simple as "Why did you do that?" The things that seem completely obvious to you may not make any sense to them. | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
Take the game littlebigplanet it is actually a good game but because the game has cartoon graphics people quickly label it as a kiddy game. If your parents simply label SC2 as a child's game then you will have great difficulty getting them interested in it. | ||
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Ralethon
United States141 Posts
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
Your goal is a good one but I believe first you must have understanding to have appreciation. To understand the game at a high level is not difficult. In two words, economy management. Or money instead of economy. The easiest way to have them understand is to relate it to something they already understand. Budgets. Explain that from the first second of the game you're trying to build economy so later you can support your army when it will inevitably be reduced in size through engagements. If you miss an scv the first second (or any thereafter) you simply cannot ever get that back. Once the basic concept is understood, which should be easy for anyone whose halfway intelligent to understand. Next would be to understand where the skill comes in, which is in mechanics/execution and of course the big one, decision making. Good luck though I've got a very smart friend who completely understands all of the concepts and intricacies of an RTS, he even played command and conquer. He simply doesnt care about starcraft, different people have differant interests and priorities. I'm a firm believer in letting people believe what they want. For example I hate (i rarely use the word) people who try to instill their religious ideas on others. I know this post kind of jumps around, but my point was to simply show a diff perspective. Good luck! | ||
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Revelatus
United States183 Posts
"Starcraft is like chess for adrenaline junkies" On December 31 2011 02:04 TBone- wrote: I reccomend sending them to the after hours gaming league. Kind of random but; Are you the same TBone from that lan at husson like last yr? lol probably not, move along nothing to see here. | ||
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
On December 31 2011 02:44 spbelky wrote: I don't know how this hasn't been posted in this thread yet, but basically if you turn this image in to a video, you're set. http://i.imgur.com/2GGmp.jpg + Show Spoiler + http://i.imgur.com/2GGmp.jpgOr this. This is good. Again just don't assume that understanding leads directly to appreciation. I believe some understanding is required for appreciation but they won't necessarily care just because they get it. | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
- 2 player game - each player sits on the floor, back to back - each has his own board and pieces and cannot see those of his opponent - moderator informs them if a move they want to make is legal or illegal There you go. That's the board game version of SC2 - has fog of war, you don't know what your opponent is doing, and apparently is scary as hell to play. Fun fact: The late Steve Jobs used to play this when he was a young adult, back in the 1970's. | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
I think its a bad idea to go deeper than that. Using "game terminology" like races, units, scouting, drops, etc. is just going to make people tune out. Some people will just be so discriminating it won't matter how you explain it. I tried comparing MLG to PGA once to my parents. But they completely disregarded it because "real sports" are physically and socially healthy activities, while everything that has to do with videogames is anti-social and anti-health. | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
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Syrupjuice
United States173 Posts
On December 30 2011 20:44 Iselian wrote: Thus far, I'm focusing on a simple TvT for simplicity's sake, on a basic map (Steppes of War), highlighting the gathering of resources to fund an army. From there, I'll break it into ground units, flying units, and bonuses versus unit types. After that, I have no idea. Again, all Terran-based for now; I figure it's the easiest to relate to and understand, off the bat. Alright, this seems like too much already. The details are what make the game distinct, so if you can keep the concepts simple you can draw more parallels and help people to associate it with other activities they might know. You shouldn't worry so much about the overall mechanics of the game when trying to get people to understand the competitive scene (from the spectator perspective). You need to address it like, "A game of Starcraft is like a game of football (American). Each person builds up their army while trying to get ahead and score 'touchdowns' in the form of drops or scouting or general aggression. Games can either be really one sided, or they can be really close, like, 21 to 24 and the losing team only has one more drive to tie it up or win it, while the winning team has to hang strong for these final minutes or find a way to turn the plays towards their favor. And a series isn't just 1 game… it's at least 2-4 games and sometimes more ;D " It's not the most well thought out comparison/explination out there, because I'm just writing in a stream of conciousness, but I hope you can understand the direction I'm coming from. I don't think you need a long video that talks about the finer points of the game, instead you should try to capture the feeling, the emotion, the energy that comes from the live events, the casters, and the story lines between players and team. Those are what draws people into the community and the eSport, and gets people hooked. EDIT: an additional point after reading some more posts on the thread. I don't think that the chess comparison really does the subject justice. I think it's great for getting a broad overview of the game, but when you start an explanation with, "well… take the game of chess…." Chess, despite being a good game, has a bad rep with its perceived entertainment value. I still think a comparison to a more high energy activity with a passionate following is better, because that's what the eSports community is, high energy and passionate c: c: c: | ||
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Mingle
United Kingdom26 Posts
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Ein0r
Germany32 Posts
The details are what make the game distinct, so if you can keep the concepts simple you can draw more parallels and help people to associate it with other activities they might know This is pretty much it. I dont know, but maybe you can find or create a vid that shows how awesome those 3 races are. You have a biotic metamorphing race, a human race, and a technologic advanced race. About the matches: Make it look cool. Show other people which show emotions, cheering for their favorite player. how sheer awesome this is. Then start with the basics. You have workers that collect resources. Resources are used to build units. Show them how fast those players react. take a Protoss for example, with moving his army and placing force fields at nearly the same time. If they are interested they will start to ask questions from their own. From this point it is up to you how good you can explain it. And you dont need to go into detail from the very moment on. This is too much information. Or just look for a replay, or a stream with a good caster who can explain the game very accurate mixing easy descriptions with the technical terms. Like any good sports commentator would do. To give an example: I am a german student and not very interested in american football. But i see and hear about the hype around it, especially when the Super Bowl is about to take place. So i watched this final match one day. i did not understand anything. At first it was just 2 teams with many people stacking onto each other while the fast ones try to bring an egg as fast as they can to the other side of the field And after that they shoot the egg? What the hell ?. So i watched it. and it got more interesting the more i understood the rules little by little from listening to the commentator. Like, when are they allowed to kick the ball, how many yard(?) the teams have to advance to not loose the ball posession, and so on. But the first thing that made me continue watching that match was the atmosphere. | ||
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Cornstarched
Canada74 Posts
I guess my point is that do not let that generation tell you that playing video games and being on the computer is a waste of time. If they tell you to go outside and get a life, (which is what i get) just give them the finger and tell them to run their own lives. My life is internet and social media. I meet more people, interact with more things on the computer in 1 day that i could in 2 years. Oh and if u say, well your not face to face talking seeing their facing feeling their emotions as they speak? I have skype and a sick webcam. Herp derp. Done. So to anyone with parents relitives or wifes telling them that your computer time is a waste of time, Look at them and tell them to mind their own fucking business and get the fuck out | ||
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Arachne
South Africa426 Posts
"You know how nice it is to get a Birdie on a par 3? Well, When I play sc2 in the morning, I am gunning for that Birdie. I want to start my day off with one coz it puts me in a good mood. When I am talked to while playing, its like duffing a shot. Its recoverable, but you are putting yourself behind for extra work later. That's why i ask you to not talk to me when I play" | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On December 30 2011 20:51 Jakkerr wrote: You are so wrong. We will be like, shut up kid SC3 is a terrible game, SC2 was the real deal. or we're gonna be like "kid i'll beat you mouse only at this shit" and then your kid is gonna be like "DAD your so outdated, we dont play with mice anymore , we control everything with our brain lol - its just like chess but without the physical work"  | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On December 31 2011 03:21 RoboBob wrote: I think the best definition is that Starcraft is a futuristic war game. Opposing sides gather resources, build armies, research technology, and attack each other. You win by destroying all of your opponents buildings. I think its a bad idea to go deeper than that. Using "game terminology" like races, units, scouting, drops, etc. is just going to make people tune out. Some people will just be so discriminating it won't matter how you explain it. I tried comparing MLG to PGA once to my parents. But they completely disregarded it because "real sports" are physically and socially healthy activities, while everything that has to do with videogames is anti-social and anti-health. this would be a horrible way to introduce a game to anyone even i wouldnt be interested after a description like that i think its best to talk about the people playing it and the huge competition with it thats what make sc2 so interesting and different from most other games and thats exactly what you want to show your parents imo after you made them interested you explain that there are 3 races battling and show them a video of some great mlg game | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
just show em the NatGeo doc. on WCG. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
Nor my mom or my dad are interested in it and i never tried to "get them into it". | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On December 30 2011 21:11 Drorctopus wrote: I think you should explain in otherwise. You want them to watch first and then explain while they are watching. Show a part of dreamhack when HerO won. So they can see the passion of the people involved in this game .I think that's really bad, the first thought they'll have is "what a bunch of weirdos, getting crazy over a videogame". If you can prove to them that the core concepts and mechanics are interesting and that mastering those mechanics is something not everyone is capable of, then you can pretty much show them anything about the game. It's like with every other sport: if your parents don't know the first thing about soccer, they don't care whether the people are going crazy over the game or not. For them to be invested in soccer they need to understand, and more importantly, appreciate the skills needed to play soccer well, so that they can identify and be impressed with great plays. | ||
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