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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
December 30 2011 19:48 GMT
#121
I showed my mom the GSL and the only thing she commented on was how all their hairstyles were similar to mine...
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 19:52:19
December 30 2011 19:49 GMT
#122
This is the best picture I've ever seen explaining it. Sadly I forgot who to credit it to: Edit: Ninja'd on page 6. And no this shouldn't be in a spoiler i want OP to see this cuz i really don't think you should explain in depth..
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 30 2011 19:52 GMT
#123
Use the hook line and sinker approach. Start by showing footage of audience shots of huge tournaments, such as Blizzcon, GSL finals, Dreamhack, or MLG. Maybe even use BW footage if need be. This will get them curious and interested in what is going on with all the excitement and action. Then show them that all of this is for a video game.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Geosensation
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
December 30 2011 19:53 GMT
#124
"What's the game you always play? Stargate? I never remember the name of it when people ask what game you play"

Will Smith was right, parents just don't understand
"My life for Aiur!"
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
December 30 2011 19:56 GMT
#125
This is how I do it:
"Ok so theres 3 groups, Humans, Advanced aliens, and insect-like aliens. I'm a general who has doods mine stuff to buy troops to kill the other guy. "
esports
_-NoMaN-_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada250 Posts
December 30 2011 19:57 GMT
#126
It might help if you point out the cognitive processes involved in high level starcraft, such as multitask, snap decisions, deducing possible strategies from limited information, etc.

Also that to improve at starcraft, one must take a scientific/methodical approach to practice, as well as a creative/lateral thinking approach to problem solving.
m3deman
Profile Joined May 2010
United States68 Posts
December 30 2011 20:04 GMT
#127
The way I described it and it seemed to work, was an analogy comparing it to chess. IMO it is very similar except played on different types of media obviously. My parents were very supportive of my brother and I play chess, so this seemed to be the best route for me!
Revelatus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:10:16
December 30 2011 20:08 GMT
#128
On December 31 2011 04:57 _-NoMaN-_ wrote:
It might help if you point out the cognitive processes involved in high level starcraft, such as multitask, snap decisions, deducing possible strategies from limited information, etc.

Also that to improve at starcraft, one must take a scientific/methodical approach to practice, as well as a creative/lateral thinking approach to problem solving.

Very important points in this post. It's too easy for uninformed people to see a video game and associate it with sitting in a recliner and drooling on yourself as you mindlessly grind "your guy" up to level whatever; or yelling at some kid through your tv because he took the sniper rifle >.>

I think we put SC2 on a pedestal. And that's where it should be.
caяp diєм
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:23:58
December 30 2011 20:19 GMT
#129
Unless they're actually interested in sitting down and watching or learning about a race, there's really not much more you need to say then "It's a game that you play online against other people, where you each collect resources, build bases and armies, and try to kill one another." That's easy to understand without making them wonder what the fuck an ultralisk is.

If they want to know a bit more, you can tell them that there are three very different races you can pick to play as- a human race, an insect race, and a robot race. (Because, seriously, your parents aren't going to remember Terran or Zerg or Protoss, but they know what humans, insects, and robots are, and it's close enough for them.) You can tell them that there's a pretty big tournament scene and that some people make a living playing StarCraft I and II (especially in South Korea) too. But that's about it for that level of understanding.

If they're interested in watching something (the next level, in my opinion), find some sort of hype video with awesome shit that can capture their attention. Actually, just show them this: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A-s-MJ2Leo


But if you want your girlfriend to learn how amazing StarCraft is... sit her ass down and make her watch Day[9] Daily #100 ♥ (My girlfriend appreciated it. Then she went to a barcraft and IPL3 with me. We also bought SC1 and SC2 for her ^^)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Payson
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:25:00
December 30 2011 20:24 GMT
#130
My mother always supported my competitive play when I played on console for MLG OPCLs so she gets the basic background of eSports.

She enjoys watching Day[9] because 'He's an adorable nerd'. HuK and MC are her favorite players and she's watched multiple GSL games, Dreamhack Finals (Winter and Summer), and usually watches MLGs during their live broadcasts. It's also nice how she actually understands some basic things in the game, such as macro and micro.

I think if you get a parent into eSports, they'll support it if you do it right. When I played on console, my parents saw how money came in through playing a simple video game and were interested ever since.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
December 30 2011 20:30 GMT
#131
My Dad has seen a few games from MLG and generally understands now why it is watched by so many people; he looked generally engaged by the matches and commentary, even though he didn't understand much. He said it is fairly easy to follow if you like sport in general and I told him, "The guy with the lowest food is generally behind" and it was enough to give him some sense of who was winning or losing.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:42:15
December 30 2011 20:42 GMT
#132
On December 30 2011 20:50 Chargelot wrote:
Dude, just imagine, someday we're gonna be the parents. And we'll be getting our asses explained off by our children... Who are really into SC3.

The future sounds awesome.


well.... sc3 is to early for the most of us having sc3 playing kids, imagine sc3 comes in 15 years, you must be father NOW so you have a playing kid ^^

also i think PC games is OUR generation.

our kids will us explain virtual reality xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
December 30 2011 20:46 GMT
#133
I've explained the basic idea of the game to my parents and my dad was pretty impressed by the amount of money top pros earn as well as the number or viewers big tournaments get. My mom doesn't care about it whatsoever and she would rather me not play it at all
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
December 30 2011 20:46 GMT
#134
Always start with apm. Almost everyone can appreciate the speed needed to have 400 apm and over 250eapm. I generally say not only can they do 250eapm they can also think of 250eapm to do each minute. That generally gets people somewhat interested.
El Caz
Profile Joined April 2010
Panama48 Posts
December 30 2011 20:50 GMT
#135
I'd say go for the human angle instead of going for the game angle. Some people like their sports and games for the strategy but many like them for the people. The players, the rivalries, the personalities, the struggles, the joy of winning and sadness from defeat. So if you're going to make a video to sell them Starcraft 2, it'd be good to know first what is it they'd find interesting from it. I figure it'd be easier for them to understand and find themselves empathetic to young men, maybe coming from humble beginnings (Fruitdealer) having successful careers in gaming, to large crowds cheering them on, to casters getting excited and screaming player's names (NESTEEEAAAAA!!!) than they would to strategy, unit composition, damage types or 3D units massacring other units to bits.

I played SC2 without much interest in streaming or tournaments for quite a while, until I watched the TSL 3. Playing terran, I rooted for the terran players, with Boxer being the only name I knew on that tournament, but soon, ThorZAin's playstyle and constant "underdog" status made me enjoy that tournament so much. Without the whole "coming out of nowhere beating famous names" angle, I wouldn't have been as hooked to the TSL as I was. I think you'll have an easier time selling the pro scene from a human angle, with names, faces, personalities and stories behind it than you would explaining the game. SC2 is quite complex for the uninitiated, specially if they don't see gaming with any sort of passion. If you kindle the passion and interest on the people first you might find them asking you to explain what's going on in the game later. Then they'll listen, instead of just pretending they're listening to you rave about "macro", "timings" or "pushes".

My sister watches the Soccer World Cup tournament with us because she liked some of the players looks and their legs with skimpy shorts. No clue about the rules of soccer whatsoever, but hey, we were reunited as family and she liked that. If you want to "sell" your parents the concept of liking Starcraft 2, you'll have to find out what is it they like about their hobbies (like Football) so much, then extrapolate it to SC2. What you like and makes you enjoy the game so much might bore them to death. Figure your pitch out based on what you think they'll enjoy, not on what you enjoy.

Wish you luck on your endeavors. I could never get my wife to like the game so you should also be open to the possibility they might hate the game, no matter how you pitch it.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:51:31
December 30 2011 20:51 GMT
#136
On December 30 2011 20:51 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 20:50 Chargelot wrote:
Dude, just imagine, someday we're gonna be the parents. And we'll be getting our asses explained off by our children... Who are really into SC3.

The future sounds awesome.


You are so wrong.
We will be like, shut up kid SC3 is a terrible game, SC2 was the real deal.



Shut up kid, BW was the real deal.
+ Show Spoiler +
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
December 30 2011 20:54 GMT
#137
My parent still thinks that games are like time-wasting childish thing, and I think 90% of people over 30+ years think that way, I think it will take a lot of time, generation change, when we will be 40+ than maybe gaming will be take more serious.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
December 30 2011 21:02 GMT
#138
On December 31 2011 05:51 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 20:51 Jakkerr wrote:
On December 30 2011 20:50 Chargelot wrote:
Dude, just imagine, someday we're gonna be the parents. And we'll be getting our asses explained off by our children... Who are really into SC3.

The future sounds awesome.


You are so wrong.
We will be like, shut up kid SC3 is a terrible game, SC2 was the real deal.



Shut up kid, BW was the real deal.
+ Show Spoiler +

they're all amazing games that are way better than the average games of their own generation
they will reign supreme always
+ Show Spoiler +
badamadab
Profile Joined August 2010
11 Posts
December 30 2011 21:04 GMT
#139
What I've noticed through my own experiences is that non-gamers have a hard time putting context to the action. Namely, you have to make the connection between the mini-map and the real in game view for them. Remember that they don't meticulously (and unconsciously) gaze at the mini-map every "x" seconds.

I think the premise of gathering resources to fund an army is pretty simple to understand, but you have to lay the foundation of "the proper ways to spectate" for them, which should add meaning to the game.
zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
December 30 2011 21:06 GMT
#140
When I explained StarCraft II to my parents it came primarily with them asking me questions, however I would recommend starting a game up (that is being casted) from a relevant tournament. Explain certain things that are happening in really specific detail. I described the races as so:

Zerg: Little bug aliens.
Protoss: Bigger humanoid aliens.
Terran: Humans.

Explain that the point of the game is to build your economy while building your army and to kill your opponent or force him into submission.
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