|
On December 30 2011 22:52 Zanno wrote: "it's like chess with laser beams" "oh, it's also a national sport in asian countries"
talking about the nuances of the game is the worst thing you can do
occassionally some people will be impressed by the idea of APM, but you don't need to explain why, just explain that the best players click 300+ times a minute I'm going to mostly go with this.
If you want them to understand what's in a game, just explain the most basic premise: Two players collect resources in order to build buildings to make armies to kill the other player. Past that, I think you really have to watch stuff to "get" it. Choose a good set of games with lots of non-technical interest (I think Puma v MC finals might be pretty good, it doesn't have to be up to date) where you can point out things that don't understand a great understanding of the game to enjoy - drops, sneaky moves, tech snipes, last-second-saves, that sort of thing - those are the exciting things that require little explaining and make someone want to learn more. The key here is, you are never going to teach someone StarCraft if they're not interested, so the primary aim in teaching them should be to make them excited about the game. You can't expect to be able to say "Hey, this is really cool, let me explain things to you for half an hour and then you'll 'get it' and love it!"
If you want to say "It's a big deal, honest!" then you can mention prize money, pro houses, major sponsors, viewership numbers, international events, celebrity pros, that sort of thing.
If you want to show that it takes a good amount of skill, you can mention APM (very simple to understand metric which will blow your average one-finger-typist-mother away) and say that it is a very basic physical representation of the skill required, while the mental side is far harder. "Chess sped up" is a basic way of saying it - call it "war with you controlling absolutely everything on the battlefield and at home, making every decision, including scientific research, troop movement, resource collection and assignment, etc." if you want, too.
|
On December 30 2011 20:51 Jakkerr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2011 20:50 Chargelot wrote: Dude, just imagine, someday we're gonna be the parents. And we'll be getting our asses explained off by our children... Who are really into SC3.
The future sounds awesome. You are so wrong. We will be like, shut up kid SC3 is a terrible game, SC2 was the real deal.
Shut up kid, SC2 is a terrible game, Dune was the real deal! 
EDIT: To add something ontopic: My mother completly understands. She is south korean though. ;P To my father(and to my friends who don't know about RTS-Games [shame on them!]) i often describe Starcraft as "playing chess while playing the piano at the same time and having someone randomly exchanging music sheets."
|
Artosis got some simple to understand quotes. "When you're ahead, get more ahead" "SC2 is a game of limited knowledge (concerning scouting)"
Maybe you could use those, 2 sentences is all I got
|
My dad introduced StarCraft to me when I was less than 8 years old. My mum thinks its good, she watches me play every now and then but she doesn't really get it, have yet to sit down with her and watch GSL because she's always so busy.
|
Unless your parents played a lot of video games in "their day" then there is no hope for them. I try to keep everything I like AWAY from my parents as much as possible lol. Why would I want my parents to like something that I like? Can you imagine parents liking video games and anime? I cant.
Bottom line: dont bother.
|
It's kinda like playing Mario party. With a caveat, you can play all of the minigames at the same time, and sometimes you HAVE to play all of the minigames at the same time, but there are certain timings where playing certain minigames gets you many more points... but playing certain minigames at the wrong timings can lose you points. All of this must be done while playing Cherry Pie on guitar hero... if you mess up on guitar hero you lose the opportunity to play minigames... which is bad because you lose the chance to get points. All this while playing your Cherry Pie as an improvisational duet to the other person who's playing the game... doing the same thing. If either you or the other person gets a bit too far ahead of the other in points, the person with higher points wins.
Guitar Hero is Macro/scouting. Minigames are Micro/Engagements/Teching. Choosing/the ability to choose to play minigame(s) are decision making that is held back by Guitar Hero success (good macro/good scouting).
Mega confusing, but when put slowly it works. That's how I explain SC2 to my friends.
|
The minimap is in my opinion an essential thing to explain so they are more or less aware of what they're seeing at a specific time on the screen and the fact that somewhere else on the map, other things are happening. This kind of spacio-temporal awareness is in my opinion very important to understand for someone who does not know the game and seems to not "figure out what's going on", like someone said about his parents.
|
On December 30 2011 23:40 goodistar wrote: The minimap is in my opinion an essential thing to explain so they are more or less aware of what they're seeing at a specific time on the screen and the fact that somewhere else on the map, other things are happening. This kind of spacio-temporal awareness is in my opinion very important to understand for someone who does not know the game and seems to not "figure out what's going on", like someone said about his parents. oh yeah, spacio-temporal awareness is very exciting
|
"It's like a chess, except you have to make your own pieces first, and who makes them faster and uses them better - wins. You have to click shit fast with mouse and keyboard and think about your strategy at the same time."
That's how i explain it to people who have no fucking clue about RTS.
|
|
I wouldn't start with a TvT, I would try to show as many races as possible. Steppes of War is a good map though, there's less scrolling between bases and action happens quite often.
|
I hope Day9 will do the video he promised. He was asked in his reddit AMA whether he could make an introducing video for anybody who is new to sc2. is someone here who can remember him?
|
its just a game like every other game in the universe and for someone who does not play games you can not explain to them why this game is for you and many others the best game
I assume that in bw days nobody praised the game like now because they did not know what a bad/different version of the game is.
so you can not explain why this is a good game because they do not know what a bad game is.
but you can tell them.that this game means alot to you and when they are good parents they will support your hobby/or that what you like.
|
Just tell them it's like Stratego, but in real-time.
And with lasers.
|
On December 30 2011 21:44 Azera wrote: Ok then what you do is you ask your parents if a game can make a grown man cry. They will probably say no. You then show them a bit of Day[9] daily #100. Your parents will be like ,"wtf why is he crying when talking about his history with the starcraft omg." You then explain more about Day[9] or let them watch more. Your parents will then be like ,"wtf omg thats so touching, his brother and mom, all so supportive on him and back at that time im sure esports was very small omg. we're going to go cry in our room now clearly this game means alot to you. oh no, i wont call it a game, i will call it your passion. you love starcraft son, we understand."
posting in bold actually makes me ignore your posts
|
"There have been many games that people have invented that have turned into a worldwide competitive sport through a grassroots movement and lots of support from fans in the past. Their names are Tennis, Baseball, Basketball, American Football, Soccer (football), Poker, Billiards, and so on... Now there is yet another player in the game of spectator sports, and that sport is Starcraft 2." Something starting off like that. :D
What I did for my family and some coworkers was show them the crowds at events, prize money, the APM video by razer, whatever. Just showed them the entertaining side without them knowing anything about the game, and then they wanted to know more.
|
My parents are so old fashioned! I didn't even have any video games whatsoever until I got a job, even then I had sneak it past them. Anyway, I tried showing them brood war and they called it "a sport for pussies" it was stupid. Then I tried showing them the awesomeness that was Tastosis and they still think its stupid. Oh well
|
"We are more than stereotypes. We are adventurers and doctors, engineers and entrepreneurs, journalists and lawyers, scientists and students. We are smart, ambitious, and competitive. We are gamers.
We believe society has forgotten how to play.
Play keeps us sane in our daily lives. Play keeps us curious, imaginative and directed. It teaches us to learn from our mistakes, to constantly improve, and to stride forward – battling through failures on our road to success.
Play develops relationships and communities. We have fond memories of growing up playing games with our friends and siblings. The gaming experience bonds us together now, as it bonded us then. We discover friends, partners, and spouses while gaming. We game with our children. We transcend international borders when we play.
We believe that our game, StarCraft, is the chess of our generation. StarCraft requires the dexterity of a pianist, the mind of a chess grandmaster, and the discipline of an Olympic trainee. We believe that our game, StarCraft, is as dynamic and exciting a spectator sport as any other. We fill auditoriums to cheer on our favorite gamers. Most of all, we believe our game, StarCraft, is a beautiful platform for play. Whether you’re a veteran, a newbie, male, female, a parent, a student, or a total nongamer, you too can join in the fun.
Our community is smart, supportive, funny, irreverent, international, insightful, and intolerant of bullsh*t.
We think you should be one of us."
Thanks Day!
|
I tried explaining it several times to my parents. The first time they took it seriously was when I explained the fact that this is an industry with serious money and real salaries. I told them how Destiny quit his job because he made more money streaming, and how the NASL had a $50,000 grand prize, all for this 'game'. Then it was easier to explained how (to play) money wad made.
|
Hey mom, StarCraft 2 is like a pest exterminator trying to cleanse a house. There are many types of bugs in there and not all pesticides works. Some bugs are immune against those pesticides while others die very fast to it. Therefore, the pest exterminator have to select the correct type of pesticide to deal with those bugs in the house. However, theres a twist to it. Those bugs might be poisonous and might attack the pest exterminator. Furthermore, different types of bugs have different types of attacks, making the pest exterminator needing to change into many types of protective armor to prevent those bugs from attacking him. Either the pest exterminator win or the bugs win. Get it?
|
|
|
|