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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 21:46:42
December 30 2011 10:01 GMT
#81
Does the game end at the second you hit 200/200 or when all the workers are produced so that you litterally have 200 workers on the map?

If 200/200 is enough, I made it 10:47 with Protoss / Master.


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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 30 2011 10:10 GMT
#82
I don't know how the further (more complex) challenges will go, but for the first challenge it seems the league will be of very little importance, and even some lower leagues may occasionally score better than higher leagues etc. Something to think about. Thanks Pokebunny for doing this.
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InfernoStarcraft
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 10:54:03
December 30 2011 10:33 GMT
#83
i got 12:37 as T, bronze T currently (plat Z)

edit: 12:00 with mules
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 10:41:40
December 30 2011 10:41 GMT
#84
What will prevent us from only build workers in the following challenges? You're going to limit the worker count? This seems not very convenient, unless you have a custom map that tells you exactly how many workers you have at any point or something. With that being said, this challenge is not very APM intensive, you can count your workers manually because you have basically nothing else to do, I guess.

I'm pretty convinced that maxing out with SCV + marines with Terran is faster than with SCVs alone, but I'm pretty sure that drone only is way faster with Zerg. For Protoss it's more complicated, I'm not too sure:
- probes and zealots have the same supply efficiency
- BUT probes are built faster than zealots
- BUT probes are produced from the Nexus, which is more expensive than a gateway/warpgate (another question arises: do we get 50 gas to research warpgate? Probably)
- BUT additional nexuses provide you with additional chronoboosts, hence accelerate macro.

Judging from the current records and how Protoss can max out on probes as fast as Zerg does, I'd say that maxing out on pure probes will be faster than by building other units. What do you think?
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
December 30 2011 10:45 GMT
#85
To be honest, I did this and I think this is not nearly a good enough way to do a max out challenge. Something better might be maxing out as Terran with a guideline that you have to have a minimum of 10 tanks, 60 marines, and 8 medivacs or something similar.
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dextrin303
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden320 Posts
December 30 2011 10:53 GMT
#86
12:03 as silver zerg
BlondeOna
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia89 Posts
December 30 2011 10:54 GMT
#87
The thread is titled 'Low League Mechanics Challenge' for a reason, yet most of the replies have been from Diamond and above, clearly they just want to boost their e-penis. There's a reason this is targeted at Bronze/Silver/Gold level players, and not Diamond/Master/GM players. Of course it's not going to be very good for you if you're a higher league, but if forces the lower leagues to continually build scv's so they get the quickest time possible.

Does anyone on TL have a brain anymore?
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Zaixis
Profile Joined December 2011
Iceland1 Post
December 30 2011 10:56 GMT
#88
11:59 silver zerg.
hydrus
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 11:12:20
December 30 2011 10:56 GMT
#89
11:04 plat zerg
no more than one queen made per hatch, no more than 5 queens

http://i.imgur.com/bQfpk.jpg

//edit

just tried with terran, 11:58
http://i.imgur.com/8rH4d.jpg
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 11:15:08
December 30 2011 11:10 GMT
#90
11:40, EU gold zerg.

http://sc2ranks.com/eu/583308/GizmomcS
http://drop.sc/81451
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8783/screenshot2011123011070.jpg

this was my first try maybe ill try more later i really do much better xp
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 30 2011 11:11 GMT
#91
On December 30 2011 19:54 BlondeOna wrote:
The thread is titled 'Low League Mechanics Challenge' for a reason, yet most of the replies have been from Diamond and above, clearly they just want to boost their e-penis. There's a reason this is targeted at Bronze/Silver/Gold level players, and not Diamond/Master/GM players. Of course it's not going to be very good for you if you're a higher league, but if forces the lower leagues to continually build scv's so they get the quickest time possible.

Does anyone on TL have a brain anymore?


The point here is that you actually don't need a brain to only produce workers and max out. Even bronze leaguers will be able to do this shit perfectly. Low league players usually have troubles to do everything you must do at once in a game of Starcraft, not the part "building probes" alone, that's what higher leagues players complain about, I think.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 11:13:34
December 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#92
On December 30 2011 14:18 bqm wrote:
max out dont prove that you can macro better.... in a game you have to deal with so many situation that you cant max out that fast, or even max out army your army is still crap, like mass roach lings

edit: now let said put hardest computer and if you can still max out before 13 mins as zerg and 16-17 mins protoss terran and you are good to go.


If this were true every league would be the same, but even with something as simple as this still GM > M > D.
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BlondeOna
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia89 Posts
December 30 2011 11:16 GMT
#93
On December 30 2011 20:11 ZenithM wrote:
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On December 30 2011 19:54 BlondeOna wrote:
The thread is titled 'Low League Mechanics Challenge' for a reason, yet most of the replies have been from Diamond and above, clearly they just want to boost their e-penis. There's a reason this is targeted at Bronze/Silver/Gold level players, and not Diamond/Master/GM players. Of course it's not going to be very good for you if you're a higher league, but if forces the lower leagues to continually build scv's so they get the quickest time possible.

Does anyone on TL have a brain anymore?


The point here is that you actually don't need a brain to only produce workers and max out. Even bronze leaguers will be able to do this shit perfectly. Low league players usually have troubles to do everything you must do at once in a game of Starcraft, not the part "building probes" alone, that's what higher leagues players complain about, I think.


You're right, but many bronze players forget to constantly build workers, so timing them and asking them to give a best possible time will encourage them to focus entirely on making sure they hit every worker cycle and depot timing, which will overall improve their macro. Once they master this they can move on to other things like maxing out as quick as possible on marines and scvs and so forth, at least that is what the intention of this should be.
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Arvd
Profile Joined September 2011
England54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 11:40:31
December 30 2011 11:24 GMT
#94
10:59 Platinum toss on first try I got 11:29 with a few supply blocks... How did that guy manage 10:48 with only 5 bases?!?! and are you allowed to use chronoboost? because when I got 10:59 I did...

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Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia635 Posts
December 30 2011 11:27 GMT
#95
11:30 platinum toss on 1st try

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TailsPrower
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada94 Posts
December 30 2011 11:33 GMT
#96
11:23 as Gold Protoss
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
December 30 2011 11:45 GMT
#97
12:06
as master terran
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 11:56:33
December 30 2011 11:45 GMT
#98
On December 30 2011 20:10 GizmoPT wrote:
11:40, EU gold zerg.

http://sc2ranks.com/eu/583308/GizmomcS
http://drop.sc/81451
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8783/screenshot2011123011070.jpg

this was my first try maybe ill try more later i really do much better xp


i did a little better time now and yet i fed up a lot i think i could make like around 10:50 if i didnt f it xD
and i was 199/200 at like 11:20 ;'<<<<< lol

11:28 EU gold zerg
http://drop.sc/81458
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eRonin
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia43 Posts
December 30 2011 11:51 GMT
#99
What I tell my friends is to try to hit 200/200 with an army composition that they'd be happy actually fighting with against a standard composition, as fast as possible (seems 16 minutes is a realistic goal), against an easy bot just so they focus on making units.
AwfulPlayer
Profile Joined August 2010
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 12:04:52
December 30 2011 12:02 GMT
#100
managed to reduce my time by almost 50 seconds in my 3rd try.
terran bronze 12:24 yay
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