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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
December 27 2011 23:39 GMT
#141
Looks pretty game breaking to me.
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holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 27 2011 23:47 GMT
#142
On December 28 2011 08:25 Verator wrote:
Battle.net windows use battle.net themes, buttons to agree to things are visually different from buttons to close things, in game menus are race themed, inside frames to display images aren't seethrough.

It looks pretty logical to me.

Shockingly, things that have different purposes don't have to be as similar as possible. Its almost like there are people that appreciate variety and visual differences.


This. I feel like a majority of these inconsistencie aren't actually inconsistencies. OP just wanted something to bitch at and some attention.

The achievements is Battle.net related, not race related. I don't get what you mean by accept, and the see-through is on everything except where formatted with pictures.
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
December 27 2011 23:54 GMT
#143
Kind of sucks that blizzard's "when it's done" philosophy has been thrown out the door for favor of the oh so typical let's rush out a game as fast as possible. I still love the game, but they could have delayed the release a bit longer if it meant polishing the game a bit more. As for this though.... eh idk how bit of a deal it is.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
December 27 2011 23:55 GMT
#144
On December 28 2011 08:03 JohnnyBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 28 2011 05:24 Tristran wrote:
Your a little bit OCD or something to sit and look through all these minor differences. These differences are so small and unimportant that I didn't even notice them. It doesn't affect the game or your game play. Stop thinking about it. Maybe play the game instead, after all it's more fun to kiss a woman than sit and point out her imperfections.


That's because you have no eye for design.... someone who studies art or graphic design (like I'm assuming OP has some sort of formal understanding of design concepts) would notice these things immediately, like my gf has pointed these things out to me as well OO:

So games should be designed around people that study art/graphic design? Don't be ridiculous.

I'd rather Blizzard work on the name change service or replay observing with friends instead of wasting time on something that only future baristas can point out.


A) Shitting on any field in a community that worships pro-gamers is kinda hypocritical.

B) Game design isn't zero sum. We should expect them to get everything right.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#145
None of these are really inconsistencies - the Help menu (the bottom images in both sets) is different, it's not see-through, because it has movies with tutorials, and it has its own font settings. The Close buttons are written in caps everywhere unlike the other buttons, in order to be distinguishable. Merry Christmas and be more careful with accusations.
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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
December 28 2011 00:08 GMT
#146
I uh, don't see why this has to be a huge deal. These screens don't affect gameplay in the slightest, the menus are still perfectly navigable, and if you spend enough time dicking around in the menus to be bothered by this...well I just don't know why you would do that.
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 00:13:27
December 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#147
A much bigger deal to me are the major inconsistencies. For instance, it's clear that the sc2 team put a lot of effort giving us custom hotkey setups, including developing profiles, and giving us multiple default patterns (grid, standard, left-handed). They even changed their command card to be 3x5 which we've never seen before in Blizzard, clearly chosen for the grid hotkey setup.

However, battle.net doesn't even use hotkeys. There's no keyboard shortcuts. Everything is mouse clicking. There's not even a way to toggle between chat windows easily with a keyboard.

This is much more significant, and gives away that the sc2 team and bnet team are completely separate.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
December 28 2011 00:15 GMT
#148
This seems like something that would get posted on April 1st or maybe on theonion.com
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#149
what I hate more is the Zerg overlapping of texture in-game with the UI, just looks cheaply done,
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OhSix
Profile Joined October 2011
United States252 Posts
December 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#150
This really seems like nitpicking to me. I would've never noticed, nor do I really care now that I see it.
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Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 00:47:46
December 28 2011 00:28 GMT
#151
On December 28 2011 08:47 holynorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 08:25 Verator wrote:
Battle.net windows use battle.net themes, buttons to agree to things are visually different from buttons to close things, in game menus are race themed, inside frames to display images aren't seethrough.

It looks pretty logical to me.

Shockingly, things that have different purposes don't have to be as similar as possible. Its almost like there are people that appreciate variety and visual differences.


This. I feel like a majority of these inconsistencie aren't actually inconsistencies. OP just wanted something to bitch at and some attention.

The achievements is Battle.net related, not race related. I don't get what you mean by accept, and the see-through is on everything except where formatted with pictures.


Pretty much exactly what was going through my head when reading OP. Thank god Blizzard doesn't actually design UIs like OP wants or you'd have transparent pictures and the entire thing done in one font. The design is actually logical and the font choices appropriate.
Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
December 28 2011 00:42 GMT
#152
On December 28 2011 08:03 JohnnyBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 28 2011 05:24 Tristran wrote:
Your a little bit OCD or something to sit and look through all these minor differences. These differences are so small and unimportant that I didn't even notice them. It doesn't affect the game or your game play. Stop thinking about it. Maybe play the game instead, after all it's more fun to kiss a woman than sit and point out her imperfections.


That's because you have no eye for design.... someone who studies art or graphic design (like I'm assuming OP has some sort of formal understanding of design concepts) would notice these things immediately, like my gf has pointed these things out to me as well OO:

So games should be designed around people that study art/graphic design? Don't be ridiculous.

I'd rather Blizzard work on the name change service or replay observing with friends instead of wasting time on something that only future baristas can point out.

This kind of analogy always puts a smile on my face. Companies have separate departments which juggle various tasks. What does a graphic designer's project have to do with a database/web engineer's project? The design of the user interface is important and having such inconsistencies gives the game an unpolished feel, something you can't have in one of your top titles.
balconia
Profile Joined December 2011
17 Posts
December 28 2011 00:47 GMT
#153
a lot of people are saying this is minor etc. i think it's aesthetically important to stick to some kind of coherent style. this is confusing and for a company like blizzard A DISASTER :p

the disaster bit was a joke but i seriously think they should fix it asap.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 00:49:57
December 28 2011 00:49 GMT
#154
so i have played this game for over a year now and didnt realize it at all

so that probably means that it isnt improtand but good finds anyways^^
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ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
December 28 2011 00:51 GMT
#155
Always knew it was ugly. Never had it spelled out to me before. It really IS ugly.
A time to live.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 01:14:23
December 28 2011 01:10 GMT
#156
On December 27 2011 23:26 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:
On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1.

I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything.

The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money.

You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums.


You take such offense to someone criticizing a game, that you'll angrily swear at a person in response? That really is some "perspective" you have there.

By the way, how exactly do you expect things to get fixed if people don't complain? The fact is that if people don't make it clear that they're dissatisfied, then Blizzard won't change it. They're not a charity, they respond to the demands of their customers. If anything, you're a free rider simultaneously benefiting from the complaints of other people and criticizing them for complaining.

Sorry please point out where I swore at this person? I would have thought his post was much ruder and more condescending than mine was-

On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:
On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1.

I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything.

The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money.

You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums.

nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible.

Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete.

Also, if you actually read this post that I first quoted, you would notice that it wasn't offering construct criticism anyway. There is a difference between methodically listing your concerns (which probably should be done on the Bnet forums since it is highly unlikely they would see these complaints here) and mindlessly whining with no apparent basis, whilst at the same time making ridiculous accusations like 'the game is still in beta' and implying Blizzard doesn't give a shit about it's customers. You really think Blizzard would take a complaint like this seriously, let alone act on it?
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 28 2011 01:12 GMT
#157
Skyrim's UI puts this to shame. And that's not a compliment to either.

I mean, I've sort of gotten used to it being clunky and slow and often irresponsive, but to have these inconsistencies pointed out is quite jarring, but it does make a lot of the navigating the menus quite unintuitive.
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GreyMasta
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada197 Posts
December 28 2011 01:12 GMT
#158
first world's problems
mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
December 28 2011 01:15 GMT
#159
SC2's UI is ugly as shit. Looks like something from 10 years ago. : (
Aristotle7
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States120 Posts
December 28 2011 01:17 GMT
#160
UI should be considered a professional portfolio. Make it ugly, inconsistent, and you are giving a bad first impression.
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