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price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
December 20 2011 01:21 GMT
#421
i'm guessing it was purely cost/benefit decision. they want to be more profitable, so get rid of the items with the least traffic. unfortunately, those shows had potential (and were entertaining to me and all the posters above)
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
December 20 2011 01:22 GMT
#422
Didn't JP start SotG without MLG? Should be fine
HexSCII
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada115 Posts
December 20 2011 01:24 GMT
#423
LOLWUT? Are the tournaments affected?!
Nexus first or die trying. partinG/MC/oz/Squirtle/Nani/ HerO
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
December 20 2011 01:26 GMT
#424
State of the Game isn't going anywhere.

Back to my cave!
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
December 20 2011 01:26 GMT
#425
On December 20 2011 10:22 Herper wrote:
Didn't JP start SotG without MLG? Should be fine


Yeah thats what I figured. It was only after that short break that it became part of the MLG broadcast.
I'm a gooner.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
December 20 2011 01:29 GMT
#426
If I were to make a guess, it would be simply that people have been pushing for our community to step up the non biased indie media. No one has done that really, so some of our existing journalists left MLG and now are likely to pursue this "avenue". Kind of like swappin the label on a jar of jelly onto a jar of jam, a placebo for your preference. Same stuff, a little different taste.

Then again, just a shot in the dark, I have no "legitimate" Idea why anything would close unless there is some sort of lack of interest or funding.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
December 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#427
I know for sure F slasher was not that big, 1-2k viewers live, and it airs at a terrible time for west coasters in NA. I know all these smaller shows had something unique like interviews and such but SOTG already covers most starcraft content.
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
December 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#428
There's no way they'll cancel SOTG. Even if by some absurd turn of events, someone else will pick up sponsoring it, I'm sure. Last week had at least 20k viewers if I remember correctly?
I need this place like I need a shotgun blast to the face.
jtp118
Profile Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
December 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#429
they're cancelling the shows because there will be a bunch of video content in 2012 of actual gameplay (40 out of 52 weeks will have gameplay, according to sundance), they don't need to fill mlg.tv time with badly-produced shows anymore.

seriously ... Fuck Slasher was terrible, Julie's Show was awkward, and SC center was all right, I guess, but I just read the forums to keep up with SC news. none of these shows ever had more than a few hundred viewers.

Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
December 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#430
I liked the WaxAngel GSL discussion. Oh well.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
December 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#431
On December 20 2011 10:26 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game isn't going anywhere.

Back to my cave!


http://twitter.com/#!/MLGSundance/status/148921616552837122

Apparently Sundance doesn't like his beautiful shiny bald head to be slapped repeatedly.
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
December 20 2011 01:35 GMT
#432
On December 20 2011 10:33 jtp118 wrote:
they're cancelling the shows because there will be a bunch of video content in 2012 of actual gameplay (40 out of 52 weeks will have gameplay, according to sundance), they don't need to fill mlg.tv time with badly-produced shows anymore.

seriously ... Fuck Slasher was terrible, Julie's Show was awkward, and SC center was all right, I guess, but I just read the forums to keep up with SC news. none of these shows ever had more than a few hundred viewers.




hopefully this means bigger prize pools for mlg too.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#433
On December 20 2011 10:26 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game isn't going anywhere.

Back to my cave!


OH thank goodness.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
December 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#434
Lame, I watched both SC Report and F Slasher on a regular basis. I guess I'm okay without F slasher as long as Lo3 picks up the slack but it was nice to hear reactions of things daily. SC Report I watched less but I still tuned in often to hear their pov's on a lot of situations.

I would have flipped shit if SotG got canceled so thanks for the heads up JP! :D
Taengoo ♥
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 01:56:52
December 20 2011 01:40 GMT
#435
On December 20 2011 10:21 price wrote:
i'm guessing it was purely cost/benefit decision. they want to be more profitable, so get rid of the items with the least traffic. unfortunately, those shows had potential (and were entertaining to me and all the posters above)


This is probably the case. All we have in the way of news is chobo/slashers posts in this thread, the esfi article, and sundance's tweet. People are asking why is there not a larger press release regarding this. Generally, it's good business practice to explain things for PR reasons, and Sundance isn't an idiot so we can assume that the decision not to disclose specifics is for a reason. As far as I can tell there are a few related possibilities

1) The reason is self explanatory, they want to be leaner in 2012, and they couldn't justify the cost/benefit based on performance to date. In this case, making a detailed explanation of their financial position is counterproductive and hurts their brand image, hence the announcement being as it is. It doesn't even need to be that MLG is losing money or whatever, but that they are refining the way they produce content, this would be in line with what chobo said about refocusing.

2) Related news will be in an upcoming press release of 2012 announcements, this news needs to come out now because some of these shows will be airing their final episode. For whatever reason it makes no sense to release news about whatever changes are occurring at this point (there could be a perception of better overall coverage/more brand equity gained by releasing everything at once in a massive press release), so they release as little as possible. This is actually in my mind also quite probable, and doesn't exclude point 1).

3) They're a bunch of reptilian aliens trying to control the world, we cannot comprehend their logic since our brains are different from theirs, so we need to watch and see what happens. This is probably the most likely.


On December 20 2011 10:26 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game isn't going anywhere.

Back to my cave!


This should have been self explanatory from the start-- remember JP tweeted just after the drunk episode something to the effect that he feels lucky to be able to be paid to do something like this? He definitely would not have had that type of tone had cancelling sotg been in the books, his tone is even more appropriate given that cancelling other shows was on the table. We could argue conversely that employees such as JP/Slasher had no advance notice of these changes, and we can't read too much into things, which is entirely possible, but I'm willing to bet that they would have at least a couple weeks notice, and definitely knew before the public release of the news.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 02:09:45
December 20 2011 01:46 GMT
#436
Also there is a German Dutch language article with Sundance here: http://www.gamer.nl/interview/195594/interview-met-mlg-ceo-digiovanni-het-was-een-geweldig-jaar


Here it is thru google translate:
+ Show Spoiler +

Last week we looked at the figures for the Major League Gaming Season 2011, and we gazed back at a successful year of electronic sport and the league itself. To conclude the year, we spoke again with MLG CEO Sundance DiGiovanni over the past year and the changes within the organization. In addition, look ahead to 2012 and what the coming year has in store for MLG, its spectators and players.

GNL: How have you experienced in 2011, compared to the 2010 season?
Sundance DiGiovanni: It was very rewarding to be able to be part of such a great year in terms of growth. 2011 2010 has definitely surpassed what numbers are concerned and I am very curious to see what we can achieve in the future. This is just the beginning.

What major changes have been made this year and why?
We have some things improved this year in order to make progress with the electronic sports. Streaming was for us one of the main points. Our partnership with Stream Works, we viewers the opportunity to stream the 720p HD quality viewing during our six Pro Circuit events. It's great to live to be present at a tournament, that feeling we wanted everyone around the world to experience. Streaming through, we were able to reach 175 countries and in total, more than 15 million hours of video viewed.

Furthermore, the addition of StarCraft II course a huge contribution to the growth of our community and attendances. Furthermore, we introduced the MLG Membership program and we added to the League of Legends tournament. Everything we have done this year is done to satisfy the community and expand our audience.

What was the most positive and most negative experience of this year?
The most positive experience of 2011 was the success of the national championship in Providence. I was convinced that we could drop a grand event and the results were extraordinary. 241,000 concurrent viewers and more than 3.6 million hours of video in just one weekend are great results, I would not it be happier.

The most negative experience was a shortage of tournaments. But six competitive events in one year is far from enough and we hope here in 2012, something that can do more through online and offline tournaments.

What are the prospects for Major League Gaming in 2012?
For 2012 we aim to build on the success of 2011. Expect more games, more leagues, more video, more live broadcasts and more global interaction.

Are there any games you would like to add Major League Gaming in the near future?
We are always researching new titles that could cause a big event and there are plenty of new games are eligible. I would greatly like Diablo III, fighting games, more first-person shooters and other titles to add. Eventually it is all down to what the community wants and what the current state of affairs [of the game and the sport itself electronically].

Is there anything you would still like to say to our readers?
I would greatly like to see more overseas trips in 2012 and our loyal fans visit. Helping to introduce Major League Gaming to others. I also want to thank everyone for a great 2011.


Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#437
Nooo, I liked SCreport and **** Slasher
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 20 2011 01:54 GMT
#438
Was just getting into **** Slasher recently..oh well.
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
December 20 2011 01:58 GMT
#439
On December 20 2011 10:26 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game isn't going anywhere.

Back to my cave!


I wanted to quote this before I realized it was JP posting it. Oh well, still quoting.
BiG
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany153 Posts
December 20 2011 02:01 GMT
#440
On December 20 2011 10:46 caradoc wrote:
Also there is a German language article with Sundance here: http://www.gamer.nl/interview/195594/interview-met-mlg-ceo-digiovanni-het-was-een-geweldig-jaar


Here it is thru google translate:
+ Show Spoiler +

Last week we looked at the figures for the Major League Gaming Season 2011, and we gazed back at a successful year of electronic sport and the league itself. To conclude the year, we spoke again with MLG CEO Sundance DiGiovanni over the past year and the changes within the organization. In addition, look ahead to 2012 and what the coming year has in store for MLG, its spectators and players.

GNL: How have you experienced in 2011, compared to the 2010 season?
Sundance DiGiovanni: It was very rewarding to be able to be part of such a great year in terms of growth. 2011 2010 has definitely surpassed what numbers are concerned and I am very curious to see what we can achieve in the future. This is just the beginning.

What major changes have been made this year and why?
We have some things improved this year in order to make progress with the electronic sports. Streaming was for us one of the main points. Our partnership with Stream Works, we viewers the opportunity to stream the 720p HD quality viewing during our six Pro Circuit events. It's great to live to be present at a tournament, that feeling we wanted everyone around the world to experience. Streaming through, we were able to reach 175 countries and in total, more than 15 million hours of video viewed.

Furthermore, the addition of StarCraft II course a huge contribution to the growth of our community and attendances. Furthermore, we introduced the MLG Membership program and we added to the League of Legends tournament. Everything we have done this year is done to satisfy the community and expand our audience.

What was the most positive and most negative experience of this year?
The most positive experience of 2011 was the success of the national championship in Providence. I was convinced that we could drop a grand event and the results were extraordinary. 241,000 concurrent viewers and more than 3.6 million hours of video in just one weekend are great results, I would not it be happier.

The most negative experience was a shortage of tournaments. But six competitive events in one year is far from enough and we hope here in 2012, something that can do more through online and offline tournaments.

What are the prospects for Major League Gaming in 2012?
For 2012 we aim to build on the success of 2011. Expect more games, more leagues, more video, more live broadcasts and more global interaction.

Are there any games you would like to add Major League Gaming in the near future?
We are always researching new titles that could cause a big event and there are plenty of new games are eligible. I would greatly like Diablo III, fighting games, more first-person shooters and other titles to add. Eventually it is all down to what the community wants and what the current state of affairs [of the game and the sport itself electronically].

Is there anything you would still like to say to our readers?
I would greatly like to see more overseas trips in 2012 and our loyal fans visit. Helping to introduce Major League Gaming to others. I also want to thank everyone for a great 2011.



thats dutch not german
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