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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15705 Posts
December 20 2011 00:05 GMT
#381
I think that if MLG cancelled SOTG, EG would pounce on it. Don't worry guys.
brad1031
Profile Joined December 2011
United States7 Posts
December 20 2011 00:05 GMT
#382
On December 20 2011 07:56 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 07:28 brad1031 wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:25 Mandalor wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:21 brad1031 wrote:
Wise to cancel these shows. They lose money by producing them....


care to tell us about your sources?


Umm......? How do you make money off of 2k viewers and 3k at most? when you have to pay at least 3-5 people to produce one of the shows you lose an absurd amount of money

They don't make money off it, they make show to keep the viewers in touch, so they know what's going on. Just like UFC they need to have a show to talk about upcoming fighters right?
Also SoTG have 20k viewers easily, so if you don't know a thing pls don't talk.

First of all I wasn't talking about sotg at all if you were paying attention...and UFC gets way more viewers on their fighters having a show than all the shows canceled combined......and 2k viewers is nothing compared to the 200k+ mlgs

don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about #nerd
Frozenhelfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States420 Posts
December 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#383
I'd better see some massive fucking increases in prize pools for this. MLG shouldn't have any business cancelling these shows with all the money they saved having the lowest prize pool in existence for the amount of views it drew. I liked watching these daily shows, and now there will be no reason to care about MLG unless it is one of the 20 days out of the year in which a tournament is being held.
polar bears are fluffy
bounca
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
December 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#384
i doubt they will take sotg away because it brought in 15-20k viewers unlike the other shows that struggled to break 2k-3k
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#385
If they kill SOTG, jesus fuck, if they kill SOTG D:<

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEE
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Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
December 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#386
Only thing that matters is SOTG.

If they somehow cancel that/don't allow it to go back on for free or whatever I'll have to find some way to make a vocal protest.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
December 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#387
On December 20 2011 05:22 Ben... wrote:
As long as SOTG is unaffected, I don't care. The other shows were nice but losing SOTG would really hurt.


I doubt it will be.

Correct me if I am wrong, but SotG began airing prior to any sort of affiliation with MLG, and, as a result, they would have no ethical right to cancel it. Again, I could be wrong on that point.

Regardless of whether or not that point is accurate, SotG generates numbers that few other pieces of Starcraft media can match. Cancelling it would be a HUGE mistake.
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
December 20 2011 00:08 GMT
#388
I REALLY hope SoTG isn't getting cancelled. I can't believe that any of these shows were bad for their business though. But hey, what do I know.
brad1031
Profile Joined December 2011
United States7 Posts
December 20 2011 00:09 GMT
#389
On December 20 2011 05:24 FlyingLigerz wrote:
wth. why would they cancel these shows. i dont think they cost like anything to produce.

Are you mentally ill? you have to pay people to work if they were to pay 3-5 employees minimum wage to produce the show they would be not making any money

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Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
December 20 2011 00:10 GMT
#390
On December 20 2011 09:05 Mohdoo wrote:
I think that if MLG cancelled SOTG, EG would pounce on it. Don't worry guys.


Yes and no. Someone would try to take it over, but that would mean JP is out. None of the other regulars have the time to make the show notes every week. Without JP, there is no show, and even if someone else fills that role, viewer numbers go way down. There are few prominent community figures that have the position where they can host that show regularly.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
December 20 2011 00:11 GMT
#391
Bit unexpected, but I can see it not being a good fit for them. Hopefully something better comes of this.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 00:12:09
December 20 2011 00:11 GMT
#392
On December 20 2011 07:56 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 07:28 brad1031 wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:25 Mandalor wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:21 brad1031 wrote:
Wise to cancel these shows. They lose money by producing them....


care to tell us about your sources?


Umm......? How do you make money off of 2k viewers and 3k at most? when you have to pay at least 3-5 people to produce one of the shows you lose an absurd amount of money

They don't make money off it, they make show to keep the viewers in touch, so they know what's going on. Just like UFC they need to have a show to talk about upcoming fighters right?
Also SoTG have 20k viewers easily, so if you don't know a thing pls don't talk.

This is correct. I remember when JP had to put the show on hold for a couple weeks recently because he was really busy with events and MLG business, he stated (I think on TL) that they do the show because they love doing it, and they don't get money out of it. If they end up shutting down SotG as well, I won't be happy . During school in particular, being able to listen to State of the Game on Tuesday nights is really fun and relaxing. I'd hate to see it go.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
December 20 2011 00:11 GMT
#393
I really liked Fuck Slasher! and some of the other shows (vinny brusco show was random and i dont think it actually was about games but it was entertaining!) but I can understand that maybe the whole "MLG.tv" idea just wasn't strong enough to stand on its own legs. Hopefully some if not all of these shows can continue on other "networks" so to speak.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 20 2011 00:14 GMT
#394
On December 20 2011 09:10 Mr Showtime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 09:05 Mohdoo wrote:
I think that if MLG cancelled SOTG, EG would pounce on it. Don't worry guys.


Yes and no. Someone would try to take it over, but that would mean JP is out. None of the other regulars have the time to make the show notes every week. Without JP, there is no show, and even if someone else fills that role, viewer numbers go way down. There are few prominent community figures that have the position where they can host that show regularly.

Why would JP be out o.o

SotG didn't always affiliate with MLG and JP still ran it back then
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 20 2011 00:14 GMT
#395
There is no way MLG is going to get rid of SotG. I mean, they could, but realistically, knowing that Sundance and crew aren't idiotic, they wouldn't. When they can get over 15,000+ weekly for a show that is based around JP calling people on Skype, they should know that they're in a good place.
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kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
December 20 2011 00:16 GMT
#396
I will miss F slasher, but not the other shows. Lets be real, SotG and LO3 were around long before MLG, and they will still be there when MLG is long gone.

I gotta say though that I am puzzled by the decision. It's not like either of those shows cost a ton to produce. All you need is a webcam and (I guess) the hosts. Honestly you don't even need the crappy little studio of F Slasher, the show would've worked just as a good as a podcast. I guess MLG learned that there was no point in paying hosts when they would probably produce the content for free anyway.
Sippycup
Profile Joined November 2011
United States12 Posts
December 20 2011 00:18 GMT
#397
I'm really not happy about this, and kinda scared as to what's gonna happen to SotG...
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
December 20 2011 00:19 GMT
#398
On December 20 2011 09:14 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 09:10 Mr Showtime wrote:
On December 20 2011 09:05 Mohdoo wrote:
I think that if MLG cancelled SOTG, EG would pounce on it. Don't worry guys.


Yes and no. Someone would try to take it over, but that would mean JP is out. None of the other regulars have the time to make the show notes every week. Without JP, there is no show, and even if someone else fills that role, viewer numbers go way down. There are few prominent community figures that have the position where they can host that show regularly.

Why would JP be out o.o

SotG didn't always affiliate with MLG and JP still ran it back then


He works for MLG. If EG or TL picked up the show, MLG would not let him host it. Not as a malicious act. I'm sure the everyone at EG and TL are very friendly with everyone at MLG, but it's business. An MLG employee can't host an EG or TL show.
Vinland
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina136 Posts
December 20 2011 00:19 GMT
#399
On December 20 2011 09:06 SimDawg wrote:
Only thing that matters is SOTG.

I think thats the reason for this cancels. Dont get me wrong, FS and SC were great, but they were not as apealing as something like Sotg, where a huge part of the community is just waiting for tuesdays just to watch it.

They cancel them both because they will probably try to create a more solid show. There is a lot of content (news, games, etc) generated on a daily basis so they just have to get the right formula to squeze al the juice out of it. Hopefully we will get something great.

Pd: I never liked slasher =/
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
December 20 2011 00:20 GMT
#400
On December 20 2011 09:11 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 07:56 tuho12345 wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:28 brad1031 wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:25 Mandalor wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:21 brad1031 wrote:
Wise to cancel these shows. They lose money by producing them....


care to tell us about your sources?


Umm......? How do you make money off of 2k viewers and 3k at most? when you have to pay at least 3-5 people to produce one of the shows you lose an absurd amount of money

They don't make money off it, they make show to keep the viewers in touch, so they know what's going on. Just like UFC they need to have a show to talk about upcoming fighters right?
Also SoTG have 20k viewers easily, so if you don't know a thing pls don't talk.

This is correct. I remember when JP had to put the show on hold for a couple weeks recently because he was really busy with events and MLG business, he stated (I think on TL) that they do the show because they love doing it, and they don't get money out of it. If they end up shutting down SotG as well, I won't be happy . During school in particular, being able to listen to State of the Game on Tuesday nights is really fun and relaxing. I'd hate to see it go.

This was true originally, but now the hosts get paid by MLG. Which, I suppose, is kinda the reason why they stopped in the first place, because it was affecting their "real" jobs.

Even if MLG drops SotG, EG has bidded against MLG for SotG in the past. They might do so again. Inside the Game is different enough from SotG that it would work, and SotG still has a much larger following.
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