MLG statement on Providence Code S spot - Page 27

On December 16 2011 08:12 mrtomjones wrote:

Stop trolling dude. No one in their right mind will believe you.

On December 16 2011 08:10 Lore-Fighting wrote:
The real reason why Naniwa was banned is retaliation for beating the big money-makers for GOM, Nestea and MVP at Providence.

While I most certainly do not condone Naniwa's attitude, I am really getting sick of Korean arrogance.

On December 16 2011 08:14 Trsjnica wrote:

No one said that; stop creating strawman arguments.

On December 16 2011 08:07 Trsjnica wrote:

Huh? GOM did release a press release, and it said exactly that Naniwa was on the top of the list of invited, but due to the Nestea game, he was removed from consideration.

On December 16 2011 08:07 Tyrant0 wrote:


No, they said he broke no rules. What he did was wrong, but even banning a Korean player for the same offense is still insane. GOM definitely did stretch the rules, because it was a unique circumstance that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

And the cry babies this entire time were the Koreans They went batshit crazy over something commonplace in the western scene. Naniwa admitted he was wrong, and they yanked the seed at the same time they made their BS controversial announcement. Naniwa was going to code S until the probe rush. It's only convenient GOM has NEVER announced the seeds, which only sounds like to me they intended to abuse this from the beginning, or they're incompetent/didn't see it coming.

On December 16 2011 08:03 Skyreaper wrote:

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=208740&cid=0&kind=8http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=208740&cid=0&kind=8

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=940944&board=0&category=13438&subcategory=&page=4&best=&searchmode=title&search=&orderby=&token=

Without telling anyone? Then how come there are people who knew that NaNiwa isn't granted Code S seed. GomTV never stated that NaNiwa was guaranteed Code S seed. It was MLG who falsely advertised others that Code S seed will be granted even though it was uncertain at the moment.

On December 16 2011 08:16 T-oastbro-T wrote:


The thing is, that "being on the top of some consideration list" is not quite the same as "having a secured seed", which everyone else including MLG believed Naniwa to have.
Thus, the discussion today isn't about a player losing the seed for questionable actions anymore, but about GOM changing rules and not properly notifying the involved parties. Which would have worked swimmingly. It's only the controversy about Naniwa, that unexpectedly focussed everyones attention on the subtle differences between "being under consideration" and "being invited".

On December 16 2011 08:16 Deimos0 wrote:
It all is simple - Naniwa, Sen and Idra were considered for the Code S invite. None of them could be sure of their spot until GOM actually gave them the seed. So Naniwa was just an option for GOM. Game with Nestea just eliminated Naniwa from Code S invite consideration - that's all.

On December 16 2011 08:01 4of8 wrote:


Basicly no one is saying was not a misstake even Naniwa says this. But the real reason why many people are upset about the incident, that they didn't told about the change in rules to anyone not even MLG. If you look at the announcement of the Blizzard Cup or the new GSL-Format there is no word about the fact, that this means no more Code S spot for the best TOP3 not Code S player in the MLG. But there is atleast one earlier announcements (the announcement when they started the GSL-MLG exchange), that says you would getting a Code S seed for the whole rest of this years MLG-Season. Go back and read it yourself. But I mean it stands in the quote from MLG. Every esportsmedia I watched or read after MLG Providence said Naniwa would get the spot, even the admins at MLG told Naniwa he would have earned the spot, they did post it on their news, you could read it in liquipedia and on a lot more pages. So now I am in the position of GOM I know I have the right to change this and I think, lets just give Naniwa a place in the Blizzardcup instead of the Code-S seed. Than you have to inform the community or atleast your former partners and the player. They didn't untill their statement after the Naniwa incident. Of course they broke no rule, but neither did Naniwa. Naniwa excused directly after he saw the reaction of the korean fans. You know this wasn't childish at all, it was human, you do something wrong which was not even your intention and as soon as you realise this was wrong you apologize. GOM did not apologize thats the difference. They punish players for a misstake, which still was ok with the rules of the tournament but they don't even thinking of apologizing for their mess. If you want to call something childish, then you have to call GOM childish. But I wouldn't call it childish, they have double moral standards.

On December 16 2011 08:16 Tyrant0 wrote:


I'm not creating a strawman argument. "It doesn't make it any less serious." The entire implication that he threw a game intentionally that would ruin a tournament, in any other case, is usually always match fixing. If not, how serious can it actually be?

On December 16 2011 08:23 dormer wrote:
Wow, this is weird.

When did Gom change the Code S spot to a Blizzard Cup spot, and why? They said it's because of the new format, but they're still inviting two foreigners to the next Code S, so I'm curious what the issue is.

Again, they're within their rights to do so, it just seems really strange. I have a hard time believing that they would do all this just in response to the Naniwa incident, but it's strange. I hope Gom will elaborate on their decision making process.