• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:50
CET 04:50
KST 12:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What are former legends up to these days?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1664 users

Season 5 Map Pool Changes Announced - Page 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
876 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 44 Next All
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 15 2011 03:07 GMT
#161
I really like the new maps they look pretty cool, The thing I really like though is the recognition blizzard gave to the tl map contest maps. <3 Blizzard always improving.
mayneeahk
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada279 Posts
December 15 2011 03:11 GMT
#162
I am quite happy that they recognized the TL map contest, hope to see some of the maps from there make it onto the ladder.

I would however like to see some of the really popular tournament maps like Dual Sight and Daybreak make it into the pool...
cosineInfinity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States178 Posts
December 15 2011 03:14 GMT
#163
New maps seem fine, never really liked Nezarim or Abyssal much myself.

But holy batnuggets, they're FINALLY acknowledging community maps! Huzzah!
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 03:20:13
December 15 2011 03:15 GMT
#164
Looks like FFE will be impossible on both, no?

Edit: nvm Valley is easy FFE.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 15 2011 03:15 GMT
#165
Beginning with Season 4, we experimented with prioritizing tournament-style maps on the StarCraft II ladder. This has been working out very well not only because it’s allowed pro players better opportunities to practice on the ladder, but also because players across all skill levels can now experience the tournament feel when playing on Battle.net. Given the success of these changes, we’re removing the last two maps in the current map pool that aren’t tournament-viable, and will be replacing them with new, tournament-ready maps.


I'm not sure if Arid is "tournament ready", and Entombed is probably going to need horizontal spawns disabled, but the fact that Blizz is now explicitly trying to get good maps in the pool instead of casual friendly rush maps is something to be celebrated. They're doing an okay job of it, as well. These maps aren't as good as GSL maps, but they're leaps and bounds ahead of Searing Crater or Blistering Sands. Once blizz's team has some practice...maybe they're be just flat-out great, especially if they let community maps in as well.

I feel like Blizzard is deciding that the e-sports community is a Big Deal(tm), and they're willing to cater to us now. I like that.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
December 15 2011 03:15 GMT
#166
2 entrance natural = sad times. If they wanted a 2player map they should've gone for something tried and true like Daybreak.
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
December 15 2011 03:16 GMT
#167
wow no rocks on the second one? Blizz is getting better, little by little lol. Anyways, they are taking out the maps I never really cared about anyways, so I am interested to see how those will play out.
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 03:19:15
December 15 2011 03:16 GMT
#168
No daybreak ><

Although it's good they removed two maps that I have veto'd.

Shattered temple I still really don't like, even though they removed close-positions.
savior & jaedong
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 15 2011 03:16 GMT
#169
On December 15 2011 12:15 susySquark wrote:
2 entrance natural = sad times. If they wanted a 2player map they should've gone for something tried and true like Daybreak.


Daybreak has a 2 entrance natural...
I am Godzilla You are Japan
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
December 15 2011 03:18 GMT
#170
Thoughts:

FFE is impossible on Arid, airplay vs. a fast Zerg 3rd is not super viable because there doesn't seem to be a place to have void rays hover behind their main/nat that is out of range of queens (though needs testing ofc), but the relatively long distance by ground between nat and 3rd will make 4-7gate timings to punish fast 3rds pretty viable. I'm actually kinda happy that theres a decently large 2player map now that forces P to go a different route than FFE.

PvZ on Entombed valley, double Stargate seems pretty strong vs a fast 3rd. No way there is gonna be creep spread to the third before 3 void rays w/ phoenix hits, and zerg doesnt want to be making units to take those rocks down. If it's a gateway timing attack, the ramp to the 3rd makes it pretty easy to FF off units.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 15 2011 03:19 GMT
#171
Love they are considering the TL maps. I also like that the rocks are used to block the fast path to the 3rd, rather than the 3rd itself. I also like the ramp on arid plateau.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
December 15 2011 03:20 GMT
#172
There needs to be a new map called Nal'ra's mountain or something.

A map which has soo many rocks = happy Dustin
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
December 15 2011 03:20 GMT
#173
Ugh dislike the 2 player map, come in from behind on natural and kill probes, don't wanna play pvt on that!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 15 2011 03:21 GMT
#174
On December 15 2011 12:19 Plansix wrote:
Love they are considering the TL maps. I also like that the rocks are used to block the fast path to the 3rd, rather than the 3rd itself.


Yeah, better use of rocks generally....except the center expos in Entombed being rocked off. That just exacerbates the horizontal spawn problem.
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
December 15 2011 03:22 GMT
#175
The mains on Arid had better not be the one with the backdoor rocks, cause then we have blistering sands over again.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 15 2011 03:22 GMT
#176
On December 15 2011 12:20 Mellon wrote:
Ugh dislike the 2 player map, come in from behind on natural and kill probes, don't wanna play pvt on that!


It's like three pylons to wall off, though.
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
December 15 2011 03:22 GMT
#177
On December 15 2011 11:59 Belisarius wrote:
un-blink-able separation between main and nat.


Whoa. Did NOT see that. That's gonna be problematic. Only option is MOAR CANNONS. Or, maybe, I might have split may army ^^. Seriously though it's an interesting feature. I don't know of any map that has that, and I'm curious to see how it plays out.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
December 15 2011 03:24 GMT
#178
On December 15 2011 12:20 Mellon wrote:
Ugh dislike the 2 player map, come in from behind on natural and kill probes, don't wanna play pvt on that!


I only see a problem in PvZ, not PvT
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
December 15 2011 03:24 GMT
#179
I don't understand the paths behind the middle expos on Entombed?
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 03:27:31
December 15 2011 03:26 GMT
#180
Sorry if I'm behind the times... do we know when season 5 is starting yet?

EDIT: Nevermind, I learned to read.
+ Show Spoiler +
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 44 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:15
Best Games of SC
SHIN vs sOs
Reynor vs Zoun
herO vs Classic
Solar vs Reynor
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 201
Ketroc 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 147
NaDa 72
Noble 48
ZergMaN 46
Hm[arnc] 21
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever400
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 656
C9.Mang0494
Counter-Strike
summit1g9582
tarik_tv5953
minikerr42
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1851
Other Games
kaitlyn9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1168
BasetradeTV17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH231
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21502
Other Games
• Scarra1389
Upcoming Events
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.