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Sik Boy
Profile Joined February 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 19:29:11
December 13 2011 19:27 GMT
#21
I hate my mouse and my mouse accuracy.
wtf
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
December 13 2011 19:32 GMT
#22
I alwayds do this accuracy games whijle drunk and get depressed
Not enough energy
Zodiac7777
Profile Joined November 2010
81 Posts
December 13 2011 19:36 GMT
#23
On December 14 2011 03:38 GWBuffalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:22 kirdie wrote:
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.


It always depresses me when people post disc dash scores. I wonder if their machine is slowing the game down or something. Because after playing a million times, I once got 40k and I felt like my wrist was going to break and my head was going to explode. 100k as normal? 200k? wtf, seriously.


Not trying to be mean but what league are you in? Because i think of myself pretty bad at these types of things and i got 116K first try.
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
December 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#24
I have the same mouse, and what works well for me is their on-the-fly sensitivity (I hotkey my two side buttons to raise and lower DPI). Seems to work fine for me, so either something on your mouse has changed (broken, smudgy sensor, mouspad, etc.) or it's just you and the way you personally move your hands.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
December 13 2011 20:02 GMT
#25
uninstall razer drivers - go default. Windows sens 6/11 starcraft sens 51% - 54% and make sure to check 'reduce mouse lag' at the sc2 options.

now try this for a few hours and come back to me. Im pretty sure you wont be disappointed.

using a deathadder here too btw.

"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
GWBuffalo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 20:11:23
December 13 2011 20:10 GMT
#26
On December 14 2011 04:36 Zodiac7777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:38 GWBuffalo wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:22 kirdie wrote:
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.


It always depresses me when people post disc dash scores. I wonder if their machine is slowing the game down or something. Because after playing a million times, I once got 40k and I felt like my wrist was going to break and my head was going to explode. 100k as normal? 200k? wtf, seriously.


Not trying to be mean but what league are you in? Because i think of myself pretty bad at these types of things and i got 116K first try.



Diamond on both NA and EU, trying hard to break into masters.

This is the game we are talking about, right? Because I just don't see how 116K first try is humanly possible. I just don't get it. (even worse, the guy who made this post said he got over a million. what the what???!?!?) I feel like maybe I'm missing something that everyone else is doing. Like I said, seeing people post these scores is just depressing.
Manslayer
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 20:26:47
December 13 2011 20:26 GMT
#27
On December 14 2011 05:10 GWBuffalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 04:36 Zodiac7777 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:38 GWBuffalo wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:22 kirdie wrote:
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.


It always depresses me when people post disc dash scores. I wonder if their machine is slowing the game down or something. Because after playing a million times, I once got 40k and I felt like my wrist was going to break and my head was going to explode. 100k as normal? 200k? wtf, seriously.


Not trying to be mean but what league are you in? Because i think of myself pretty bad at these types of things and i got 116K first try.



Diamond on both NA and EU, trying hard to break into masters.

This is the game we are talking about, right? Because I just don't see how 116K first try is humanly possible. I just don't get it. (even worse, the guy who made this post said he got over a million. what the what???!?!?) I feel like maybe I'm missing something that everyone else is doing. Like I said, seeing people post these scores is just depressing.


lol, i just got 98k in my first try

OP: Try disabling the sensitivity in the razer control panel and just use the 6/11 of windows, it may be messing the 1:1 ratio lowering your accuracy
No quote D:
GWBuffalo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
December 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#28
On December 14 2011 05:26 Manslayer wrote:
lol, i just got 98k in my first try


Budzlight
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States578 Posts
December 13 2011 21:53 GMT
#29
Does there need to be a new mouse thread every 2months?
I was the 5% that voted for thorzain in the TSL for round 1
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
December 13 2011 22:06 GMT
#30
On December 14 2011 05:10 GWBuffalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 04:36 Zodiac7777 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:38 GWBuffalo wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:22 kirdie wrote:
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.


It always depresses me when people post disc dash scores. I wonder if their machine is slowing the game down or something. Because after playing a million times, I once got 40k and I felt like my wrist was going to break and my head was going to explode. 100k as normal? 200k? wtf, seriously.


Not trying to be mean but what league are you in? Because i think of myself pretty bad at these types of things and i got 116K first try.



Diamond on both NA and EU, trying hard to break into masters.

This is the game we are talking about, right? Because I just don't see how 116K first try is humanly possible. I just don't get it. (even worse, the guy who made this post said he got over a million. what the what???!?!?) I feel like maybe I'm missing something that everyone else is doing. Like I said, seeing people post these scores is just depressing.


Lol, don't worry, I know how you feel... can't get over 30k (on my 6th "try" now)
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:59:37
December 14 2011 01:57 GMT
#31
What the hell, I can't break 40k myself. Apparently I need to work on my mouse skills. And I'm 25th master league atm.

Edit: Oh okay, 4th try broke 80k, I think there is a small bit of strategy involved to that game actually.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
December 14 2011 02:15 GMT
#32
On December 14 2011 03:38 GWBuffalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:22 kirdie wrote:
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.


It always depresses me when people post disc dash scores. I wonder if their machine is slowing the game down or something. Because after playing a million times, I once got 40k and I felt like my wrist was going to break and my head was going to explode. 100k as normal? 200k? wtf, seriously.


I hear you... I'm accurate enough, but not fast. Just tried that game from the link later on in the thread, and in 4 games I was always between 22k and 38k. With other hand dexterity tasks too, I just can't seem to make more than 2 deliberate motions per second.
shirobu
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia16 Posts
December 14 2011 02:24 GMT
#33
On December 14 2011 00:48 gibb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:41 shirobu wrote:
So what is you question? Is it ways to improve mouse accuracy? In terms of settings, on a Deathadder V2 the optimal settings are what you have listed. Make sure mouse hertz is set to 500 and not 1000 though.


Why should the hertz be 500?


It should be set to 500 hertz because max settings are not necessarily the best settings. Mouse acceleration/deceleration can occur on maxed settings.

Their is a program out called the Mouse Movement Recorder and every time you move your mouse, it will record the movement. It will then display a red bar when acceleration occurs and a green bar when deceleration occurs. Naturally you want to have settings set so that no green or red bars are present.

I own a Deathadder V2 and it is optimal on 1800 DPI and 500 hertz. It is basically the same as a Deathadder V1 but they added in settings which the mouse can't operate efficiently at.
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
December 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#34
Out from your post and the comments my best bet is your grip and posture, which is like 1/3 of what makes up your accuracy.

In this case the posture part is specificly your arms, read up on right angles on elbow and wrist for your grip and also read up on posture like shoulder height and work on reducing tension in the arm.

For grip find out what grip you prefer, main three grips are palm, claw and fingertip (fingertip is optimal for SC2 accuracy but far from necessary), all grips got pros and cons, and also each grip needs a different mouse (some mouses work for fingertip+claw, and some for claw+palm, but those mouses are not optimal).

Then the most important part of grip, do it right... A good estimate on my part is that half my friends use palm grip, the other half doesn't grip their mouse right (e.g. they use "claw" or "fingertip" but not right so it becomes just a purely bad grip).

So find the grip you want to use, get a mouse for that grip, use that grip right, work on reducing tension in the arm, and POSTURE POSTURE POSTURE.
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
December 14 2011 02:48 GMT
#35
Make sure mouse acceleration is turned off on the windows control panel, it's called "enhance pointer precision" or some bullshit like that
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
December 14 2011 20:56 GMT
#36
The website is now down. Anyone know a mirror?
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:35:27
December 14 2011 21:34 GMT
#37
The thing with mouse sensitivity is that you will get used to any sensitivity if you play on it for a while.
Still this will not be your optimal sensitivity in terms of precision, so you have to actually make an effort to determine which sensitivity is best for you.

A good approach is to try and seperate all mouse actions into small micro movements (i.e. selecting individual units from a ball) and broader movements (i.e. boxing all units on screen).

Use only your wrist for the small movement, and use the movement of your whole arm for the broader movement.

Set the sensitivity as low as possible, just high enough that you can still comfortably travel across the whole screen with one arm swipe. Have a pivot point for your arm movements (elbow) and a pivot point for your wrist movement (heel of the hand) for stability. This should enable you to do fast mouse movements with your arm and precision movements with your wrists.

Your new sensitivity will feel awkward at first, because you are not used to it. Patience is the key here. Play games vs the computer until you get used to it. In the long run it will pay off to have that extra precision and control for small micro actions.
Its favorable to set your sensitivity through the dps of your mouse so that you can set ingame sensitivity to 51 to 55. This way, the ingame sensitivity will be close to your sensitivity in windows, and you train your mouse movement even when not playing.

Disclaimer: Other people might play differently, and I am nowhere near a great player, but with this method my mouse movement feels very intuitive and comfortable and I have a great sense of control overall.
No matter how hot it gets, sooner or later there's a cool breeze coming in.
Marooned
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway161 Posts
December 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#38
On December 14 2011 00:37 Kyoudai wrote:

I have read threads about mouse accuracy settings, i turned of accelaration and accuracy in windows and my deathadder driver settings are: 1800 DPI (it goes up to 3500), sensitivity is 10, and master sensitivity is 6, same with windows.

Thanks for any help.


I have messed around in sc2 alot to find the optimal settings for me, and I still havent found the perfect setting. I come from an fps background, where I used to play competatively. I was used to having a very low sens.
Low sens in general is good for fps, and for that mouse accuracy game, but its not allways the best in starcraft.

Right now I use a steelseries xai, or ikari mouse at 1600 dpi. 51% ingame sense and 6 windows. Its a good setting for me where I can split units like marines fast, but still remain pretty accurate.
If I try that accuracy game though my score is not nearly as good when on 1600dpi as it is on 800dpi. It might be cause my hands are used to 800dpi and win sens 6, but I feel that having a high sens in general, although it can make you faster, it takes a lot longer time to develop the necessary muscle memory to remain accurate. Just the smallest musclemovements makes your cursour move alot at high sens settings. And establishing "patterns" of movement across your mousepad is much harder cause the movements required to move around are so small. This is a well known fact among fps gamers, where the norm is to stick to a "low" sense, though a few good players use what some would consider an unplayable high sens and still do well with it.

Anyway, if I were in your shoes I would try to figure out this on my own, not asking what the perfect sens settings for deathadder or whatever is, cause its different from person to person. Yes, it is important to do precise clicks in starcraft, but its also important to be fast. I wouldnt put to much into that accuracy game when trying to find the perfect sens.
terriBean
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada75 Posts
December 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#39
I come a competitive FPS background and the best advice I can give you is to:
1) Use a good mouse pad, a good mouse pad can help you just as much as a gaming mouse.
2) Disable mouse acceleration.
3) Lower your sensitivity, lower sensitivity means better consistency. You obviously need to strike a balance though between speed and consistency.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
January 27 2012 15:09 GMT
#40
practice practice practice

dont just play the game ... if you are going for accuracy you should never miss a click even if it means the target fades away before you click it. You should be aiming for the middle and not clicking till you are on it ... even if the target fades away before.

If you find its too fine a control for you then lower your sensitivity.

Te problem with all this new kit is that it is *horribly* over specced. I was hitting 66% of rails when playing 1v1 q2 with a mouse with a ball whilst adjusting for ping.

You have to care about every motion. If you do not have accuracy its because you have been favouring tasks that do not require it or not demanding a high enough level of proficieny for yourself for an extended period of time.

I agree with guy about about the mousepad ... a good mousepad makes all the difference. There are many about now - personally i prefer cloth due to the way it wears over time. But really it isn't kit, its you A little bit of very deliberate conscious effort every day soon adds up.

You can learn the entire fretboard of a guitar in 7 days just learn 1 position of the major scale a day. I also literally mean someone who has just picked up the guitar for the first time. But you need to put in several hours a day.
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