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Kyoudai
Profile Joined January 2011
15 Posts
December 13 2011 15:37 GMT
#1
Hey, i have a Razer Deathadder and i am having trouble being accurate with my mouse, for example i can only get to level 3 on http://www.missionred.com/games/reflexte.html.

The main problem seems to be when i try to go in a stright line to something, i go off on curves, i have constructed a diagram of me attempting to go from the rectangle to the star.

I have read threads about mouse accuracy settings, i turned of accelaration and accuracy in windows and my deathadder driver settings are: 1800 DPI (it goes up to 3500), sensitivity is 10, and master sensitivity is 6, same with windows.

Thanks for any help.
shirobu
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia16 Posts
December 13 2011 15:41 GMT
#2
So what is you question? Is it ways to improve mouse accuracy? In terms of settings, on a Deathadder V2 the optimal settings are what you have listed. Make sure mouse hertz is set to 500 and not 1000 though.
prom1se
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada35 Posts
December 13 2011 15:43 GMT
#3
It might be your sensor, how long have you had it? It is probably worth it (if possible) to try to return it and get a new one. Other then this just do the normal things, check to make sure there is no dirt or other objects (ie. hair) obstructing the sensor. You could also try disabling the driver, or changing the mouse hrtz rates.

Also just to be sure, use a mouse pad/make sure your on a good surface (seems silly, but can be an issue with tracking). Plus I am not 100% sure but I know early versions of the Deathadder 3.5g (the 3500 dpi version) had issues with tracking on cloth pads.
joopajoo
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:46:30
December 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#4
Try setting your sensitivity a bit lower, high sensitivity makes your actions faster but ALOT more inaccurate. And i don't think its the mouse (it almost never is) i have a razer salmosa and got to level 5 on that game. Just decide on one type of setting and practice with it and you'll get better. But if you're really sure about the mouse being the problem you should atleast set your DPI as high as you can.

EDIT: Oh and how's your mouse pad?
gibb
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden288 Posts
December 13 2011 15:48 GMT
#5
On December 14 2011 00:41 shirobu wrote:
So what is you question? Is it ways to improve mouse accuracy? In terms of settings, on a Deathadder V2 the optimal settings are what you have listed. Make sure mouse hertz is set to 500 and not 1000 though.


Why should the hertz be 500?
Manners.
Kyoudai
Profile Joined January 2011
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:51:11
December 13 2011 15:49 GMT
#6
- The mouse is very new 2-3 months

- I use a steal series qck mouse mat. (cloth)

- I have spent hours every so often playing full screen mouse accuracy games and im getting nowhere.
creamyy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States46 Posts
December 13 2011 15:51 GMT
#7
Could be your DPI setting is to high, maybe try lowering it for more accuracy
Ambition is never content, even on the summit of greatness.
Kyoudai
Profile Joined January 2011
15 Posts
December 13 2011 15:54 GMT
#8
I went from 3500 dpi to 1800 a while back and it made no difference to my weired curves
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:59:26
December 13 2011 15:58 GMT
#9
I think 1800 dpi 500 hz is more consistent than 3500 dpi 1000hz.

I could only get to level 4 because the game is bad and doesn't register clicks sometimes.

If there's one thing I learned from playing FPS' competitively it's that the lower sensitivity the more control you have.

A lot of pros also opt for mice like the Intellimouse 3.0 which only offers 450 dpi.
Saafen
Profile Joined January 2007
Sweden79 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 16:04:24
December 13 2011 16:00 GMT
#10
People blame equipment too much. I have a 9€ mouse Wheel Mouse Optical and got to lvl5 first try and lvl6 after 7 tries. I have no idea what's good and im not interested to know, just saying most people seems to think that equipment plays the games for you.

On December 14 2011 00:49 Kyoudai wrote:
- The mouse is very new 2-3 months

- I use a steal series qck mouse mat. (cloth)

- I have spent hours every so often playing full screen mouse accuracy games and im getting nowhere.


Keep practice!
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
December 13 2011 16:06 GMT
#11
Yeah I use a logitech mini optical that only has 400 dpi and I got to lvl 5 first try. You don't need ultra precision accuracy for that game anyway so I think its just that you aren't very good.
I'm a Crab made of men.
prom1se
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 16:11:46
December 13 2011 16:10 GMT
#12
@people talking about ultra precision accuracy and practice...

On December 14 2011 00:54 Kyoudai wrote:
I went from 3500 dpi to 1800 a while back and it made no difference to my weired curves


Unless your really that bad, I don't think it will have much of an effect, not to mention WMO and Logitech mini optical are really good mice to be honest.

@OP I honestly think at this point you should think of trying to return it (maybe try other mice first to check if its an issue with the case).
enCore-
Profile Joined July 2010
98 Posts
December 13 2011 16:11 GMT
#13
You have to set DPI and hz to maximum, acceleration to minimum and then reconfigure the actual mouse speed in the starcraft 2 settings. Should be obvious that this way you get maximum precision. I play on 5600DPI and 1000hz just fine, the only limiting factor is my hand.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 16:23:07
December 13 2011 16:16 GMT
#14
On December 14 2011 01:11 enCore- wrote:
You have to set DPI and hz to maximum, acceleration to minimum and then reconfigure the actual mouse speed in the starcraft 2 settings. Should be obvious that this way you get maximum precision. I play on 5600DPI and 1000hz just fine, the only limiting factor is my hand.



Bad advice, set sc2 to 51-54% sensitivity with acceleration disabled and change DPI for "sensitivity" if you want pixel perfect tracking.


To OP, the most likely cause of your "curves" i think is the way you control the mouse, when moving, make sure your mouse is always pointed DIRECTLY forward and not angled to the left or right, for example when some people move they will hold their wrist in the same place and swing their hand to the right, which would make the mouse face about 45 degrees (diagonally up/right). If you are TURNING the way your mouse faces, instead of just moving it directly up/down/left/right with it always facing the exact same way, you wont be able to draw perfectly straight lines at any angles.


Try playing at lower DPI too, i used to play at 3200 myself, but i gradually dropped to 800 for sc2 (and about 3-5 sensitivity in a few FPS engines) but i can reach level 6 on http://www.missionred.com/games/reflexte.html using 400dpi, im sure i could get further if i practiced for a while but i havnt played that or Osu in a few weeks.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
GWBuffalo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
December 13 2011 16:22 GMT
#15
On December 14 2011 00:49 Kyoudai wrote:
- The mouse is very new 2-3 months

- I use a steal series qck mouse mat. (cloth)

- I have spent hours every so often playing full screen mouse accuracy games and im getting nowhere.



I'm assuming the plastic film has been peeled off the bottom of the mouse?

I have a death adder, and being the retard that I am, I actually played with that film on the bottom of my mouse for almost 2 months.
Kyoudai
Profile Joined January 2011
15 Posts
December 13 2011 16:33 GMT
#16
The plastic film is off.
Kyoudai
Profile Joined January 2011
15 Posts
December 13 2011 16:46 GMT
#17
The problem really slows me down in sc2 doing things like putting scvs on gas and sometimes building placement, im trying to sort it with allot of practice but didnt seem to work, so im looking at software settings but still getting nowhere
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
December 13 2011 16:52 GMT
#18
On December 14 2011 01:46 Kyoudai wrote:
The problem really slows me down in sc2 doing things like putting scvs on gas and sometimes building placement, im trying to sort it with allot of practice but didnt seem to work, so im looking at software settings but still getting nowhere



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94258


A great game for mouse accuracy and speed, try to play songs on difficulty levels you cant finish without lots of practice and then move on to others, helped me unimaginably with control, speed and recovering from unexpected situations almost instantly in starcraft 2.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
kirdie
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany221 Posts
December 13 2011 18:22 GMT
#19
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.
GWBuffalo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
December 13 2011 18:38 GMT
#20
On December 14 2011 03:22 kirdie wrote:
How good are you at disc dash arcade? I got over 200k once (but around 100k is normal) and I have a death adder too. I use 900 dpi though and feel very comfortable with that.


It always depresses me when people post disc dash scores. I wonder if their machine is slowing the game down or something. Because after playing a million times, I once got 40k and I felt like my wrist was going to break and my head was going to explode. 100k as normal? 200k? wtf, seriously.
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