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Naniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 8

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FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
December 13 2011 15:13 GMT
#141
And now please, TL, re-stock on your tampons and stop your bitching.

User was temp banned for this post.
Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
December 13 2011 15:13 GMT
#142
humans are often offended for no reason (: (emotion>reason sometimes yo)
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:14:52
December 13 2011 15:13 GMT
#143
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place? That's bad organization. It's like watching MLG finals then after it finishes..the absolute last players (the first that got kicked out) have a match of vengence between them...useless....
U MAD BRO?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 13 2011 15:14 GMT
#144
On December 14 2011 00:12 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 13 2011 23:59 grobo wrote:
People are just hating because it's me who did it.

That's the truth right there.

SC2 community is easily the most biased community i have ever been a part of.

Yeah, just like a rapist who got out of jail decides to go rape again gets a more severe punishment than a first time offender. Such an unfair system!


...I'm assuming that you're just using it for purposes of the metaphor, but comparing Naniwa to a rapist? Or any kind of criminal? See, this is the problem -- he does something that people think is unprofessional or BM, and that's a totally valid opinion to have. There are a lot of reasons why he shouldn't have probe rushed. But people saying stuff like this just escalates everything into a giant shit-fest.

Of course it's just a comparison for the sake of showing that track records compound =.=
zguL
Profile Joined March 2010
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:15:31
December 13 2011 15:14 GMT
#145
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said!

IdrA says it best
If you want peace, prepare for war.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 13 2011 15:14 GMT
#146
On December 14 2011 00:10 Coca Cola Classic wrote:
He deserves every ounce of criticism and hatred he gets. His actions lack both professionalism and sportsmanship. All of you arguing for "his match meant nothing therefore he should not be forced to play" is ridiculous. If you look at the UEFA Cup, teams that have no chance of qualifying must still field a team and play the match. Even if they have no chance of moving forward, players are still on the field, and they still play. They don't field a team of 6 players. They field a team of 11. Imagine showing up to a UEFA Cup game and the team decides to field 6 players because the match doesn't mean anything. No one would stand for it in the soccer community and no one should stand for it here.


Except they would start B-teamers and youth academy players. In professional sports leagues around the world, a team with no chance often sits "injured" star players for an entire month, start players that totally do not belong in the major leagues, try wild strategies, et cetera to try to see "what they have for the future."

No one would stand for it in the sports-watching community and no one should stand for it here.

Oh, wait. Except they do.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 13 2011 15:14 GMT
#147
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place?


Greg is actually spot on with those remarks.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#148
On December 14 2011 00:02 csn_JohnClark wrote:
This is a perfect example of why each group match should have a $$ amount attached to it. Instead of making the finals of an event so top heavy with prizing.. you spread the amount out for group play as well. It is how ESL does it for their IEM group stages and it means that every match matters (at least to a point). Even in real sports... meaningless games often have a financial implication.

Just my 2 cents..


or if they dont want to pay extra money (or divide the pool for whatever reason) they could just make everyone progress, higher positions further up the starting rounds. mlg-esque. it makes every group game matter
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#149
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place?


It is kind of strange. The nice thing about the regular Code S group stages is that they changed the format to make sure that every game matters. I know that this is a special tournament and that it's just nice to have all these big names together, but Idra does have a good point.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
FluXxxx
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany57 Posts
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#150
if a game doesn't matter,all of the parties invoolved should come to an agreement,not just one person!

furthermore,nothing was at stake so he can't play his best!?so he can't play his best when he plays ladder?
does he always wants to play for spots or money?even as a progamer you still play the game for fun,don't you?
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#151
On December 14 2011 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place?


Greg is actually spot on with those remarks.


Funny, that's what the people defending nani has been saying the entire time.
We make signature, then defense it.
Lillpapps
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden99 Posts
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#152
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place?

To earn money from the sponsors? To be able to profit from hosting a tournament. To be able to host more tournaments in the future.
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:16:45
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#153


Considering the very negative responses from Korean teams, players, and media, do you regret what you did? Would you have done it differently if you could do it again?

If I could do it again i would just 4 gate and then people wouldnt have complained, this is no different from what Stephano did against Cloud at Dreamhack [Note: After going 0-2 and being eliminated from his group, Stephano went for two very early pool builds against Cloud. Stephano's match against Cloud had ranking implications for other players in his group], People are just hating because it's me who did it.



another example comes to mind



Were the Koreans pissed at Moon when this happened?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#154
On December 14 2011 00:09 Anton K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 23:59 grobo wrote:
People are just hating because it's me who did it.

That's the truth right there.

SC2 community is easily the most biased community i have ever been a part of.


The hate against naniwa is silly. I feel like Korean players and a big part of the SC2 community are right now ganging up and hating on Naniwa, it's close to bullying in my opinion and it disgusts me. I thought good of this community but it's showing it's true colours more and more. The HoN and FPS communitys are assholes but atleast they arent hypocrites and Dramaqueens the lot of them.

As soon as Naniwa does something it is blown out of porportion and people take the chance to hate on him. He played his 3 games that mattered and he gave it all. He lost and all 3 games were close and he chose to forfeit the last match in a faschion that is arguable.


You guys are actually okay with Naniwa's behavior?
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 13 2011 15:16 GMT
#155
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place? That's bad organization. It's like watching MLG finals then after it finishes..the absolute last players (the first that got kicked out) have a match of vengence between them...useless....

Don't agree to play games even if they're meaningless.

Goes both ways. Terrible format yes (though it's nice to see more games) but Naniwa did agree to it. Don't say you'll do things and then don't do them.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
djfoxmccloud
Profile Joined July 2011
France185 Posts
December 13 2011 15:16 GMT
#156
What will be the next t-shirt at the handsome nerd ?
I hope they will make something fun out of this :D
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
December 13 2011 15:16 GMT
#157
Yeah he should have just gone for a 4-gate or something. That wouldn't have upset the Koreans at all.....
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 13 2011 15:17 GMT
#158
The Gracken has spoken.

It seems everyone forgot all the awesome games NaNi gave us today. ): He (once again) proved he can actually compete with the very best.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
December 13 2011 15:17 GMT
#159
On December 13 2011 23:59 grobo wrote:
People are just hating because it's me who did it.

That's the truth right there.

SC2 community is easily the most biased community i have ever been a part of.


of course it's the truth. but maybe he should be looking at WHY that is the case? it's 100% his fault why his history looks so poor compared to the more respected (in terms of personality) pro-gamers.
if he simply doesn't care, then he shouldn't be complaining about something like people targeting him.
ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
December 13 2011 15:17 GMT
#160
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Idra has spoken, maybe now the PMS'ing masses can calm down a bit.
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