Naniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 58

On December 14 2011 18:26 Trankintor wrote:
Nani's Probe allin, is the same to me like the 2 marines all scvs allins some terrans do. Why don't they get any hate?

Is that just because they make a rax first or what?

On December 14 2011 19:36 shin432 wrote:
I know its easy for people to say "who cares" but what if your favorite nba, soccer, football, hockey etc etc team had the same mentality? Just cause they can't make it to the finals and they just throw every single game since they know they can't make it to the finals. I think what naniwa did was pretty disrespectful to the game and for those who paid to watch the match.

On December 14 2011 19:40 Corrosive wrote:

In hockey i'd prefer this because they would get rewarded for it lol. If my team is doing bad enough that they won't make the finals and they come in last place they get the first round draft pick which is a huge advantage.

This isn't anything like that, there's no reward for coming in last in this tournament and there is no reward for playing a game that is useless.

On December 14 2011 20:13 skideff wrote:
Poor Naniwa, poor interview.

I sincerely feel sorry for Naniwa.
If he understands e-sports culture in Korea 0.01%,
he couldn't have done and moreover he couldn't do the interview like that.

Your act is almost insults to Korean e-sports culture.
The great players could not exists without fans.
They need to do their best of best for fans no matter what the situation is.

That is the fundamental to whom wants to become a progamer in Korea.
That is why Slayers_Coca gave up GSL Code S and Byun Hyun Woo kept apologize to fans about the incident.

Bye Naniwa!

Many Koreans want to see your success in GSL include myself.
But you just kicked yourself and Korean fans' hope out of the door.

I guess most Koreans won't care whether you keep doing good outside of Korea or not
unless you take the situation more seriously from the Korean fans' point of view and apologize from your heart.

If Naniwa still could not get the point, Naniwa should talk with Jinro who understands the situation a lot better I guess.

On December 14 2011 20:51 hmsrenown wrote:

It's totally different. This match has exactly no consequence. It's not a "match-fix" that is pre-determined. In essence Naniwa was forfeiting the match, but couldn't do so otherwise.

On December 14 2011 21:17 Resonance wrote:


It's very offensive towards both viewers and the other player. Not showing respect for every single game. It's much less about whether it was fixed or not, but rather more so about playing a good game. Would you not be upset to see your favorite gamer just throw away his last game, especially if you paid for it?

Not only this, but he showed no respect for Nestea by doing this sort of rush.

I am not hating because it is Naniwa, but rather I'm hating because of his actions. If MC did something like that I'd lose all respect for him.

On December 14 2011 21:23 spacecoke wrote:
In any sport based league in the world, if a team leaves WO (equal to not trying to win) they will get disqualified or even fined, even if it is nothing at stake (i.e. two teams placed in the middle of a ladder) so banning Naniwa is the correct thing to do IMO.

On December 14 2011 21:36 hmsrenown wrote:

All competitor has a right to forfeit in my opinion. And they will if the circumstances are less than favourable. How about baseball teams out of contention playing their minor leaguers come September? That give fans terrible games, showing contempt to supposed "competitiveness" of the game, but no one whined about that. Oh yes, fans paid to see those games TOO!

I just simply fail to see how SC2 needs to hold a "honor code" than any other sport. It doesn't make the game any more better than another, competition is competition, any way you cut it.

Moreover, I am stunned at differential treatment that Nani got for his actions, I think nobody complained when ToD outright forfeited the three matches remaining after going 1-2 in groups with little to no hope of advancing. ToD has a following, he was "fighting for his country" over excellent players like SarenS and Adelscott, and even Stephano.

To put it simply, I believe the person behind the screen had more to do with the decision than his in game actions. And if he was denied the right to forfeit the game when it is inconsequential, it is downright ridiculous to force him to play half-hearted and see a fail 4-gate.