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Naniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 57

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deviltask
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)3 Posts
December 14 2011 07:43 GMT
#1121
O wOㅋ 내가 항국말쓰면 님들 봄?

>w <?

If I write it korean Does it shown broken?

Few square or something?
Ow Oㅋ
Donpickel
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark2 Posts
December 14 2011 07:45 GMT
#1122
We still love you Naniwa!
deviltask
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 07:48:31
December 14 2011 07:45 GMT
#1123
On December 14 2011 05:46 Theovide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 05:35 deviltask wrote:
O wO Hey I'm korean >w <!!!!!!! AND I wanna say it's Kimchi man's racial spec

WitchHunt >W <!! Just stop minding about koreans They love to pinch some helpless people without showing any mercy

and that's just fine what you did was actually very hilerious


Haha, I guess this is google translate? Though you seem to be trying to say that you think what Naniwa did was fine?



;(... Does My enlish that bad?

And Yes I support Naniwa

and Other people who had done things that actually didn't go so far

But Ugly Koreans making it for good reason to witchhunt
Ow Oㅋ
Polox
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden115 Posts
December 14 2011 07:46 GMT
#1124
On December 14 2011 14:45 SCM.geauxsu wrote:
This guy gets paid the amount that many families in America dream of making everyday. To just throw away a big (albeit unimportant) game like that shows that he has absolutely no respect for what he does or who supports him. Quantic made a huge mistake


You get paid ammounts of money that many families in Africa would only dream of making everyday. To be home from work one day shows that you have absolutely no respect for them. Blabla Stop talking about some fucking bullshit and stop making this thing any bigger then it really is.
Kogutz
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil117 Posts
December 14 2011 08:10 GMT
#1125
Lol, people like to play the fool. "THERE WAS NO RULE SAYING YOU SHOULD PLAY A DECENT MATCH."
Christ... If you accept an invitation to a tourney that people PAY to WATCH, you MUST show your best, even if you're a weak kid like Naniwa. Sigh, somebody must teach this kid a little bit of respect on (e)sports. I would love if he gets banned from games on Korea and stuff like that. <3
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
December 14 2011 08:23 GMT
#1126
just wanted to say that this overlay which TL started to use is badass ^_^
KingAce
Profile Joined September 2010
United States471 Posts
December 14 2011 08:24 GMT
#1127
You can't ask for Professionalism from the players if you don't respect them. Respect the fact that Naniwa has just lost 3 games in a row and mentally and emotionally he's unstable....why make him play a game that has no meaning at all? It's clear that he has no reason to put in any effort, so be it probe rush or a 4 gate...what differences does it make?
"You're defined by the WORST of your group..." Bill Burr
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
December 14 2011 08:54 GMT
#1128
On December 14 2011 14:50 RajaF wrote:

Formula 1, the perfect example. Drivers who are so far behind the front of the pack that they have no chance of catching up will let others pass them with no fight because the RULE of the sport is that you have to get out of the way if you suck so bad.




That rule exists in racing because it's incredibly dangerous for both drivers...because shit like this happens:

+ Show Spoiler +

Mark Webber flips in Valencia '10 because Heikki Kovalainen was slower lap traffic.



But back to Naniwa, I think it was incredibly disappointing for him to throw the game.

I'm not necessarily a fan of Naniwa, but I expected to see him put up a fight against Nestea. It might even be a little disrespectful in some aspect. I know that there's nothing on the line, but seriously man, at least give it your all until the very end.
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
Kogutz
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil117 Posts
December 14 2011 09:00 GMT
#1129
The funny part is that people defend Naniwa because he was "mentally and emotionally unstable" because he lost 3 games in a row and blablabla... But Nestea lost 3 games in a row TOO and still was trying to show a decent match.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
December 14 2011 09:18 GMT
#1130
What is Nestea's reaction to this?

On December 14 2011 13:41 TerranTurisT wrote:
At least the people talked about it, so at the end of the day it was more entertaining then a succcessfull 7 roach rush against a bad FFE. Is Naniwa hurting E-sports? Is a ragequitting Idra hurting E-Sports? Common... we love that shit because we can discuss about it and show our friends : "did you see that?".

That whats this all about.. entertaining. I'm not paying 100 bucks to see boring buildorder wins. But ...to see Nada taking off his jacket against leenock... MC sitting in the middle of the GSTL stage "who's the Boss", Keen making funny ceremonies, Slayers celebrating with jessica after GSTL win twice, sad Marineking, speechless MMA after people chanting "MMA!"..... Emotions are a big part of this Game. We want to see them. We want to see excellent games too.

Naniwa is, like khaldor said, a very straight forward guy... after 3 games on the highest level a protoss could play he was mentally exhausted... and nobody can blame him for that.. So I'm glade he made this choice.. Against Nestea you only can show good games when you are in best shape... he wasnt.. Instead of showing a mediocre game (where nothing matters) he gave it up right away. It shows how ambitious he is.. To be honest: After that performance I have even more respect for him.. although i do not like him that much.



Agreed, especially the bold. Idra does this too (to a certain extent). There were times when Idra GGed even though he was winning (One of the EG Master's Cup's game was one for example last I remembered) but yet it never gets made a big deal as this (it does but just minor complaints).

The flaw is the system - There should be some reward or incentive to still keep playing or winning. Maybe for GSL points, maybe a slightly bigger prize money, just something.
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rakharo
Profile Joined September 2010
8 Posts
December 14 2011 09:19 GMT
#1131
If a sports team played all their backups instead of starters for some throw away game, it would be okay. If Naniwa probe rushes a meaningless game, he's ruining e-sports. I understand people pay for this tournament (as do I) and want to see entertaining games, but I would still find that dumb 1 minute game to be more interesting than a half-assed 4gate.

Why was Naniwa at the Blizzard cup? To play with honor and chivalry for the fans? No, he was there to make money.
Ender_IF_
Profile Joined December 2011
Spain4 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#1132

Thx for fighting Nani. However, I think you should understand what a proffesional is. Ultimately you are playing for the fans. And the fans deserved a Nestea v Naniwa. Sure. It can be said that that match shouldn't have been played just beacuse there was nothing on he line. Sure, I think I can get your frustation to justify your actions. Those were tough tough tough losses. However you are a pro. Never ever forget that.

After all that you are still my favourite toss player, Keep it up man
I don't understand the question, and I will not respond to it
Trankintor
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:26:57
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#1133
Nani's Probe allin, is the same to me like the 2 marines all scvs allins some terrans do. Why don't they get any hate?

Is that just because they make a rax first or what?
dhcustom
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:30:30
December 14 2011 09:29 GMT
#1134
On December 14 2011 18:18 Goldfish wrote:
What is Nestea's reaction to this?

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 13:41 TerranTurisT wrote:
At least the people talked about it, so at the end of the day it was more entertaining then a succcessfull 7 roach rush against a bad FFE. Is Naniwa hurting E-sports? Is a ragequitting Idra hurting E-Sports? Common... we love that shit because we can discuss about it and show our friends : "did you see that?".

That whats this all about.. entertaining. I'm not paying 100 bucks to see boring buildorder wins. But ...to see Nada taking off his jacket against leenock... MC sitting in the middle of the GSTL stage "who's the Boss", Keen making funny ceremonies, Slayers celebrating with jessica after GSTL win twice, sad Marineking, speechless MMA after people chanting "MMA!"..... Emotions are a big part of this Game. We want to see them. We want to see excellent games too.

Naniwa is, like khaldor said, a very straight forward guy... after 3 games on the highest level a protoss could play he was mentally exhausted... and nobody can blame him for that.. So I'm glade he made this choice.. Against Nestea you only can show good games when you are in best shape... he wasnt.. Instead of showing a mediocre game (where nothing matters) he gave it up right away. It shows how ambitious he is.. To be honest: After that performance I have even more respect for him.. although i do not like him that much.



Agreed, especially the bold. Idra does this too (to a certain extent). There were times when Idra GGed even though he was winning (One of the EG Master's Cup's game was one for example last I remembered) but yet it never gets made a big deal as this (it does but just minor complaints).

The flaw is the system - There should be some reward or incentive to still keep playing or winning. Maybe for GSL points, maybe a slightly bigger prize money, just something.


How is the Idra situation even comparable? He was playing with an intent to at least play the game out, if not to win. Naniwa had no intention of playing the game at all. What Nani did makes sense from a personal perspective (he has nothing to gain) but ultimately it was a selfish act because he didn't care about the audience and his opponent.

edit: grammar fix
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
December 14 2011 09:29 GMT
#1135
On December 14 2011 18:24 Ender_IF_ wrote:

Thx for fighting Nani. However, I think you should understand what a proffesional is. Ultimately you are playing for the fans. And the fans deserved a Nestea v Naniwa. Sure. It can be said that that match shouldn't have been played just beacuse there was nothing on he line. Sure, I think I can get your frustation to justify your actions. Those were tough tough tough losses. However you are a pro. Never ever forget that.

After all that you are still my favourite toss player, Keep it up man


Wrong, he is not playing for the fans, he plays to win and he plays for those who pay him. If they pay him to be entertaining they can kick him now, but they wont, because they pay him because he is the top foreign player in sc2.

People need to stop living in a dream were sc2 players are there for the fans and the only task they have is to please the audience.

If you dont like it, leave but we all know that people wont since the competative gaming is what makes it so fun. The ffgs, show matches and other shit are just a bonus now and then and nothing important.
LamaMitHut
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany187 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#1136
do you get gsl ban for 6 pool, too?

(-.-)
Niso
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia148 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#1137
Man, even though I am not a huge fan of Naniwa, I still felt bad for him, he came really close to winning all his games, and you have to agree that he would of been in a pretty shit place before his game with Nestea.
Television version of a person
futurephatboy
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia13 Posts
December 14 2011 09:53 GMT
#1138
man all the best !!!
Against All Odds !
PWNuLimByLim
Profile Joined September 2010
United States99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:06:21
December 14 2011 10:02 GMT
#1139
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I still got <3 for naniwa! And we should appreciate the discount GOMTV will be giving and the free Up/Downs announced by Tastetosis tonight.
"Time to seize the moment! and play some Starcraft 2" DaBigLimCSUS.253 / Sac State Channel: CSUS | FacebookUS: CSUS Starcraft 2 Club | CSL Team:http://www.cstarleague.com/league/teams/249
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
December 14 2011 10:10 GMT
#1140
On December 14 2011 18:24 Ender_IF_ wrote:

Thx for fighting Nani. However, I think you should understand what a proffesional is. Ultimately you are playing for the fans. And the fans deserved a Nestea v Naniwa. Sure. It can be said that that match shouldn't have been played just beacuse there was nothing on he line. Sure, I think I can get your frustation to justify your actions. Those were tough tough tough losses. However you are a pro. Never ever forget that.

After all that you are still my favourite toss player, Keep it up man


So Idra isn't proffesional?
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