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blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
December 20 2011 13:43 GMT
#221
Ah! a new and fresh(sort of) start! n__n~ christmas and sc2 ^^
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YaShock
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary119 Posts
December 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#222
On December 20 2011 22:39 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 22:24 YaShock wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:21 awu25 wrote:
On December 20 2011 21:57 Spitfire wrote:
Been a frigging terrible season for me, season 3 I was top 10 in my gold division consistently whereas season 4 I dropped down to around 40. I think the players in lower division have gotten better.

Also, first day of season 4, I'm pretty sure most of the players I was playing were smurf accounts.

Did you use up all your bonus pool? Higher rank does not equal higher skill, it just means people played more -_-. I doubt you were in a division where the top 40 people used up all their bonus pool.


Not always. Sometimes people get 500 points with 1000 games, and others get 1000 points with 60 games... That's because they always get favored opponents, so they win +20 points (+40 with bonus pool) and lose 1/2.

EDIT: Okay maybe not with 60 games, maybe I exaggerated a bit, it's maybe 200 games, but you get the idea.

But do you honestly think he's rank 40 because of that reason? There's a huge misconception in the lower leagues that rank = skill. I've seen posts like "I was rank 1 silver and now I got promoted into gold and I'm rank 50?!?! Wtf is that?" If people use up all their bonus pool, they should be at least top 25 in a competitive league.


Yah I guess that's true, but you have to admit that in Master or especially in GM the rank difference means a lot. Not like rank 1 is 100% sure better than rank 8, but when it comes to 50 rank differences, than it's true. I mean some random guy in gm at top 200 isn't that good like someone in top 16, for sure.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 20 2011 13:53 GMT
#223
On December 20 2011 22:49 YaShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 22:39 awu25 wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:24 YaShock wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:21 awu25 wrote:
On December 20 2011 21:57 Spitfire wrote:
Been a frigging terrible season for me, season 3 I was top 10 in my gold division consistently whereas season 4 I dropped down to around 40. I think the players in lower division have gotten better.

Also, first day of season 4, I'm pretty sure most of the players I was playing were smurf accounts.

Did you use up all your bonus pool? Higher rank does not equal higher skill, it just means people played more -_-. I doubt you were in a division where the top 40 people used up all their bonus pool.


Not always. Sometimes people get 500 points with 1000 games, and others get 1000 points with 60 games... That's because they always get favored opponents, so they win +20 points (+40 with bonus pool) and lose 1/2.

EDIT: Okay maybe not with 60 games, maybe I exaggerated a bit, it's maybe 200 games, but you get the idea.

But do you honestly think he's rank 40 because of that reason? There's a huge misconception in the lower leagues that rank = skill. I've seen posts like "I was rank 1 silver and now I got promoted into gold and I'm rank 50?!?! Wtf is that?" If people use up all their bonus pool, they should be at least top 25 in a competitive league.


Yah I guess that's true, but you have to admit that in Master or especially in GM the rank difference means a lot. Not like rank 1 is 100% sure better than rank 8, but when it comes to 50 rank differences, than it's true. I mean some random guy in gm at top 200 isn't that good like someone in top 16, for sure.

In master league everyone goes by points or sc2ranks overall ranks, divisions are totally meaningless.
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1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
December 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#224
On December 20 2011 22:53 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 22:49 YaShock wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:39 awu25 wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:24 YaShock wrote:
On December 20 2011 22:21 awu25 wrote:
On December 20 2011 21:57 Spitfire wrote:
Been a frigging terrible season for me, season 3 I was top 10 in my gold division consistently whereas season 4 I dropped down to around 40. I think the players in lower division have gotten better.

Also, first day of season 4, I'm pretty sure most of the players I was playing were smurf accounts.

Did you use up all your bonus pool? Higher rank does not equal higher skill, it just means people played more -_-. I doubt you were in a division where the top 40 people used up all their bonus pool.


Not always. Sometimes people get 500 points with 1000 games, and others get 1000 points with 60 games... That's because they always get favored opponents, so they win +20 points (+40 with bonus pool) and lose 1/2.

EDIT: Okay maybe not with 60 games, maybe I exaggerated a bit, it's maybe 200 games, but you get the idea.

But do you honestly think he's rank 40 because of that reason? There's a huge misconception in the lower leagues that rank = skill. I've seen posts like "I was rank 1 silver and now I got promoted into gold and I'm rank 50?!?! Wtf is that?" If people use up all their bonus pool, they should be at least top 25 in a competitive league.


Yah I guess that's true, but you have to admit that in Master or especially in GM the rank difference means a lot. Not like rank 1 is 100% sure better than rank 8, but when it comes to 50 rank differences, than it's true. I mean some random guy in gm at top 200 isn't that good like someone in top 16, for sure.

In master league everyone goes by points or sc2ranks overall ranks, divisions are totally meaningless.


Seriously, there were some divisions last Season where ~900 points could get you in the top 5 and others where 900 points wouldn't even get you in the top 30.
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