EPThe's playing well and mixes cheese with macro and timing. shud be interesting next code S to see how well he does
Why Fin looks like one of the best in sc2 already - Page 5
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
he's playing well and mixes cheese with macro and timing. shud be interesting next code S to see how well he does | ||
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:49 Noocta wrote: Sorry for the stupid question, but what is he holding ? Code S Medallion | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:49 Noocta wrote: Sorry for the stupid question, but what is he holding ? Code S medallion. | ||
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Thraxis
United States36 Posts
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:38 Atlas247 wrote: Not sure what you mean by fOrGG has been playing SC2 for about 8 months already, it's not like he switched over yesterday. So yes hes looking good...but thats to be expected. Grubby has also played for 8 months and he isn't wrecking shit... BW > WC3? | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:36 LimitSEA wrote: I think he's good, not surprising considering his background in BW. That being said though, nothing he's done has impressed me. Beating Sage and Polt is big, yes, they're no slouches. But July hasn't been playing his best for a while. Best micro displayed in sc2? Lol. A bit premature, and honestly you're coming off as a broodwar fanboy in spite of what you said. He has a unique style, much like Stephano did. But until he beats someone worthwhile I'm not prepared to say he's anywhere near ready for a GSL title. Still, interested to see how well he does in Code S. He's a talent for sure, I just don't think he's quite that good. I agree that claiming his micro is the best we have seen in sc2 is wayyy to pre mature. but to say that after only a couple of months training with a team(Yes he laddered before and was top GM... but really that's not true training/practice) 2-0'ing Polt and Sage is not impressive? Yes July has been in a bit of a slump but he is still July, and come to think of it, he beat July where he is strongest in the early/mid game. His play has clearly improved 100 fold since the Korean weeklies, whether that is because he has had more time to practice in a team house environment or it was simply knowing your opponent ahead of time and being able to prepare specifically no one can really know. Either way I'm stoked to see what he can do in the future with more time in the team house and even more scheduled matches to prepare for. | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:49 Noocta wrote: Sorry for the stupid question, but what is he holding ? The glass code S medalions. I don't know if players get them like is implied, or if its just supposed to represent the player qualifying for code S, but that's what it is. Edit: Anyone else think he looks like Mr Chae? | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:44 Zoler wrote: People don't understand. ForGG is the best one to switch now. Before this there wasn't a close to good ex-bw progamer playing SC2. Nada, Nestea and Boxer, they were all nothing. I think you should clarify that you mean player skill peak as they switched. NaDa and BoxeR were not nothing in BW, though I know what you mean you'll probably get flamed lol fOrGG is looking really strong, he impressed on the weekly's, despite losing here and there to allins, and has shown a remarkable run in Code A, and soon to be Code S. For those saying his macro is not up to par because his early game is so solid, watch his series against Sage and most of his TvT's from the weeklies, it's there for sure. Since there are spoilers in the OP I doubt I need to tag this: Even the series against July, the set on TDA...there are MANY Code A Terran's who wouldn't be able to micro their harass as well as fin while keeping their min so low. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:38 Atlas247 wrote: Not sure what you mean by fOrGG has been playing SC2 for about 8 months already, it's not like he switched over yesterday. So yes hes looking good...but thats to be expected. it's a huge difference between laddering on your own and training in a team house. So really to me its more like he just switched over. Yes the ladder helped him learn the basics and obviously helped some fundamentals but in the end that's not training. Look at the guys he's beaten, they've been living in team houses and training properly for pretty much a full year if not more then. ForGG has caught up to that high level of play having just moved into a team house. That is insane | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:57 DrowSwordsman wrote: I don't think SC2 is perfect but I think once more BW pros come over and settle you'll see SC2 is less "volatile" than a lot of people think. Better players in the GSL will simply start crushing and the whole "bad players can win at SC2" will start going away more, I think. Of course, can't wait for Stork, Jaedong, and Flash to switch over. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
Especially with the way he crushed his opponents, that kind of demonstration can mean either two things: he is unbelievably good right now, or his opponents were bringing their A game. I wouldn't say which one is the case because I don't know which one is true, but we really need to see him being pushed to the limit to really understand which level is he competing on. This is kind of hard right now because how little we have seen of him. Nestea, DRG, leenock and MVP established their status of the best of the best through MASSIVE amounts of game. Nestea has won three GSLs. MVP has won three, made another final and an Ro4, against the best the sc2 world has to offer. DRG went essentially undefeated in two GSTL, leenock won providence out of open bracket and took down GSL and MLG champion on his way. They all showed their consistency and top level play through at least 30+ games to be considered the best. I'm not saying Fin isn't up to par, but it's still too early to make that conclusion because how little we have seen of him. | ||
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aupstar
Australia912 Posts
 Certainly though, he's the best A teamer to switch to sc2 so far. | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
MVP's TvT is untouchable at the moment when he's on his game. | ||
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B.I.G.
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SuperNinja
Canada33 Posts
However, I disagree with saying he has the best micro or has displayed the best micro in Starcraft 2. 6 broadcasted games are too little to say anything. I'm neutral in the Brood War players debate. I think obviously players who train 'professionally' with incredible dedication and past RTS skills will do really well (I expect Flash and Co. to win several Code S). This however, isn't a case of some BW player picking up the game and in 2 months getting into Code S. We know he has been laddering for a very long time. A lot of the top players spam ladder practice and some have even said its the best form of practice. I think this is the case of someone who wanted to be in really good shape before he put his name out there on the big stage. That makes sense to me. Reputation is important and as shown by these threads, we can see that he has gotten his name out there. He probably laddered a lot for a year, saw that he was as good as most top players or better, then decided for himself that SC2 is something he will commit to. One of my favourite things about him is that he is quoted as saying how he learned a lot watching MVP's VODS and thinks he is the best player. Very humble from him and honours the people currently making SC2 what it is. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On December 07 2011 06:05 Esk23 wrote: Fin is good but he'll lose once he meets MVP. MVP's TvT is untouchable at the moment when he's on his game. Yeah but MVP was also good at BW so it's ok. :D | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:00 VirgilSC2 wrote: Six months as opposed to the players who have been playing for a year and a half? Look at TSL HyuN, he's been playing for like a month and a half, with two weeks in the TSL house, and he's already beating other Korean pros in things like the Playhem Daily. I mean what do you expect? He was a top top level broodwar player and all those years of experience and mechanics training doesn't just suddenly disappear. Obviously those skills transfer to other RTS games, especially starcraft 2 since its such a similar game. To be honest, it's really not anything insane unless he makes the top sc2 players like MVP/MMA/Leenock look like fools. Just Sage, July, and Polt who are not at the top of the game right now is simply too small a study group to prove that broodwar players can come in whenever they want and just tear through. In addition, people exaggerate how much practice he's gotten. 6 months is still a considerably long time and the other pros that played for a year and half were playing for about 6 months in a stage in the game where nothing was figured out, so they weren't getting much real practice anyways. | ||
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