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On December 07 2011 06:13 SuperNinja wrote:
I agree with your statement that Fin needs some attention right now. He is obviously a very strong player and is on a good run right now.
However, I disagree with saying he has the best micro or has displayed the best micro in Starcraft 2. 6 broadcasted games are too little to say anything.
I'm neutral in the Brood War players debate. I think obviously players who train 'professionally' with incredible dedication and past RTS skills will do really well (I expect Flash and Co. to win several Code S). This however, isn't a case of some BW player picking up the game and in 2 months getting into Code S. We know he has been laddering for a very long time. A lot of the top players spam ladder practice and some have even said its the best form of practice.
I think this is the case of someone who wanted to be in really good shape before he put his name out there on the big stage. That makes sense to me. Reputation is important and as shown by these threads, we can see that he has gotten his name out there in a very positive way. He probably laddered a lot for a year, saw that he was as good as most top players or better, then decided for himself that SC2 is something he will commit to.
One of my favourite things about him is that he is quoted as saying how he learned a lot watching MVP's VODS and thinks he is the best player. Very humble from him and honours the people currently making SC2 what it is.
Whoops meant to edit and hit quote
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He plays ladder for 8 months now.
-yes. but ladder is a fucking joke
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Has forGG tried to get into Code A before? If not, then it certainly is impressive that his first attempt at qualifying for the GSL was successful, and should be added to his subsequent list of accomplishments in Code A.
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Mvp / ForGG for GSL 2012!
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On December 07 2011 05:46 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 05:44 Zoler wrote:
People don't understand. ForGG is the best one to switch now.
Before this there wasn't a close to good ex-bw progamer playing SC2. Nada, Nestea and Boxer, they were all nothing. By best one to switch now, I hope you mean the one in best form when he switched. Because I'm fairly certain we've already had a few BW banjos in SC2 for a while.
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On December 07 2011 06:15 DeadBull wrote:
He plays ladder for 8 months now.
-yes. but ladder is a fucking joke
That's why NA pros can't get Grand-Master on the KR ladder, huh? Thanks for the insight.
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I think that back in his prime, MC used a similar style (like the 3 gate expand, the first nonallin pvt pressure expand build) and his superb control gave him the invincible aura he has since lost. I hope to see this style blossom!
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Who cares?! All I want is Gom to organize a showcase match between him and MVP 
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If ForGG is the best at anything, it's powering a hype train
Jesus Christ, this is worse than Leenock
Let him win some code S games first.
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Fin's control was AMAZING! He just would not use units, and would always target fire. I don't know if his units even know how to auto fire, he tore Polt a new one (and frankly Polt hasn't looked good to me... ever, but I'm a hater so just ignore that).
OGSFin has played an entirely different style of Terran, using Banshee's with cloak extensively in every match up and in EVERY stage of the game. I love it, and can't wait for him to crush and come up against the better SC2 dominant players next season!
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On December 07 2011 06:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
If ForGG is the best at anything, it's powering a hype train
Jesus Christ, this is worse than Leenock
Let him win some code S games first.
People are just excited to see something that is new and not just someone doing the traditional strategy/play but slightly better than everyone else. He's just CRUSHING people with stuff that nobody has an answer to yet and it's very exciting to watch.
But yeah, like with leenock (omg he's unstopable/new bonjwa) after one tournament and a match against MVP he won we'll need to see. That being said I firmly believe that forgg can win one of the next 2 GSLs. We haven't even seen someone be able to hold off his attacks/harassment without huge losses to get into a macro game with him. His unit production is incredible considering the amount of harassment he's doing at the same time, I expect that he will have NO TROUBLE AT ALL playing a long drawn out macro game.
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On December 07 2011 06:19 Cedstick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 06:15 DeadBull wrote:
He plays ladder for 8 months now.
-yes. but ladder is a fucking joke That's why NA pros can't get Grand-Master on the KR ladder, huh? Thanks for the insight.
That's completely irrelevant. Ladder just isn't good practice.
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On December 07 2011 06:15 DeadBull wrote:
He plays ladder for 8 months now.
-yes. but ladder is a fucking joke
Huk pretty much only practices on the ladder. Seems to be working well for him.
Granted customs are probably a more efficient practice method. But that doesn't suddenly making laddering bad.
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ForGG is the best SC:BW-Pro who switched.
He is doing great in SC2.
Not very suprising.
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i always love to see the power and supremacy of sc1 players compared to sc2 players.
previously i had to extrapolate from comparing bwfpvods to sc2fpvods, but now i can see an sc1 mega pro make a fool out of sc2 pros.
incredibly epic how the heroes we are impressed with in sc2 may turn out to be way inferior when the sc1 progamer switch.
the time of noobs dominating the scene is coming to an end! haha
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ForGG's micro is in no way superior to every other Terrans, it's good but I'd expect most of the top tier Terran players to do as much given the same scenarios.
His multitasking and ability to appropriately prioritise actions is what makes him particularly scary right now, which I guess is what you are getting at when you talk about the way his play forces mistakes.
Looking forward to seeing how he stacks up in Code S.
On December 07 2011 06:26 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 06:19 Cedstick wrote:On December 07 2011 06:15 DeadBull wrote:
He plays ladder for 8 months now.
-yes. but ladder is a fucking joke That's why NA pros can't get Grand-Master on the KR ladder, huh? Thanks for the insight. That's completely irrelevant. Ladder just isn't good practice.
Ladder is fine practice if you are playing against high level opponents all the time. It offers you a huge range of scenarios and maps which is perfect for learning how you want to play each match up.
Customs are better for drilling and fine tuning things.
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ForGG will surely win multiple GSL's in 2012, I have no doubt about it. Same with MVP, it was just a matter of time before MVP started dominating, same will happen with ForGG.
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On December 07 2011 06:19 Cedstick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 06:15 DeadBull wrote:
He plays ladder for 8 months now.
-yes. but ladder is a fucking joke That's why NA pros can't get Grand-Master on the KR ladder, huh? Thanks for the insight.
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If anything it helps his point? Ladder is a joke when compared to training in a team house! Laddering in your own time =/= real practice.
ForGG has had a couple of months of true practice and on his first run through of the GSL code A has gone undefeated. I really don't see how people can shrug that off as not a big deal or not a great accomplishment, especially when looking at the players he has beaten and how one sided the matches have been.
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Dont know if he can still challenge MVP, but loving his style!
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I was so happy when  Mr. Timingu Attacku used flying dts in every matchup, I love him even more now. ForGG, maybe you can make up for killing Jaedong that one time. You know what I am talking about.
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