On December 07 2011 05:07 figq wrote:
He's been playing official matches in the ESV Korean Weekly. You could have made some of these conclusions earlier.

Not true, because I watched his weekly games and while he looked good, he didn't look great or anything special because he had a few bad games there. His GSL games however are mind blowing and look completely different from his weekly games. While I wasn't that impressed with his weekly games, I'm blown away by his GSL games. It's a night and day difference.

Fishgle

United States2174 Posts

December 06 2011 20:10 GMT

#23

dumb question. how do you pronounce ForGG? is it 'forg', or 'for gee gee'?

superstartran

United States4013 Posts

December 06 2011 20:10 GMT

#24

On December 07 2011 05:04 Senx wrote:
He's been in the top of the ladder for several months and just now has had some "public" success. His play is impressive, but its not like he magicly became amazing. He has been amazing for quite some time.

He just annihilated one of the most talented Protoss prospects, a GSL Super Tournament winner, and a two time finalist and former BW Champion.

If you don't describe that as magical, please, do tell me what it is.

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

December 06 2011 20:11 GMT

#25

It's hard for me to judge just how good he is right now because all his games have come through different styles and pretty dominating performances, but he is obviously very good and obviously code S level. Since I saw him in the ESV weekly he's actually gotten waaaay better, and it's scary to think just how much he might improve once january comes around.

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts

December 06 2011 20:12 GMT

#26

I cannot wait to see fOrGG perform in GSL January. It's going to be absolutely amazing!!

NekoFlandre

United States497 Posts

December 06 2011 20:12 GMT

#27

Eh, ForGG is going to do really well, watching him vs July was like. Um, yea dude.....how to win

Tennet

United States1458 Posts

December 06 2011 20:13 GMT

#28

On December 07 2011 05:10 Fishgle wrote:
dumb question. how do you pronounce ForGG? is it 'forg', or 'for gee gee'?

for gg

Great write up, watching ForGG play is amazing and really inspiring.

Zinjil

United States166 Posts

December 06 2011 20:14 GMT

#29

I feel like fin has a different mindset than most of the other BW pros that have switched over so far, in that he's taking sc2 as seriously as possible and fully applying himself to the game. His peak skill level in brood war was in 2008, when he won his MSL, around the same time July won his golden mouse, but the difference between their levels of motivation is palpable. Fruitdealer won a GSL and has been resting on his laurels since then, nada's attention is being shared between starcraft, school, and his new business venture, and boxer has admitted that the only time he's truly felt the same level of motivation to succeed as in sc1 is in front of foreign crowds. His name change away from ForGG seems to have meant something more to fin, and he is effectively a brand new player with the skillset and knowledge of a champion already inside of him, but the drive and ambition of a newly-recruited no-name. I'm fairly sure this mix of attributes is going to serve him extremely well.

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

December 06 2011 20:14 GMT

#30

You put a lot of effort into this post, nice job ^^ I agree with your points.

Enearde

France265 Posts

December 06 2011 20:15 GMT

#31

ForGG really impressed me even if i'm not a BW fan (i didn't watch any starcraft before sc2 came out) i have to say that he's one of a kind but what i fear is that players like him who favorize strong timings and tactical play can't really beat players like MVP. ForGG reminds me of MKP, strong pushes and micro, i feel he has a better understanding of the game than MKP and doesn't have the mental weakness of MKP neither but it's the same "kind" of playstyle. I hope he'll grow better and better and stop doing timing attacks every game (yeah, i know he's known for that^^), if not, strong players will figure out his playstyle and know how to scout what he's doing and than proceed to hardcounter it. He's kind of "new" for almost every player so...
I'm not saying that he's not as good as he seems to be, he's really really strong but i just hope he'll not follow the path so many good players followed before falling into darkness.

I think being a former BW pro gives him a lot of flexibility and creativity, he's really refreshing to watch. I'm a fan already

PS: nice write up, good job OP

Xcobidoo

Sweden1871 Posts

December 06 2011 20:16 GMT

#32

Although he has been looking sick good so far, I would have predicted wins for many players over both Polt and especially July. Will be interesting to see how he does in code S next season against the likes of Leenock, Jjakji, MVP, NesTea, MMA, Oz etc.

Eufouria

United Kingdom4425 Posts

December 06 2011 20:16 GMT

#33

His multitasking is something that I feel only MVP has been able to show the same level of, but then he also has this sick sick micro that not even MVP has showcased yet.

Right now he seems to know this and all his builds seem aimed at taxing his opponents multitasking to the point that they collapse, in the same way that a pro player would crush a high masters player.

Diizzy

United States828 Posts

December 06 2011 20:17 GMT

#34

hes ranked 1 in korean ladder if that means anything... lol

namste

Finland2292 Posts

December 06 2011 20:18 GMT

#35

On December 07 2011 05:16 Eufouria wrote:
His multitasking is something that I feel only MVP has been able to show the same level of, but then he also has this sick sick micro that not even MVP has showcased yet.

Right now he seems to know this and all his builds seem aimed at taxing his opponents multitasking to the point that they collapse, in the same way that a pro player would crush a high masters player.

He did a lot of overstimming / stimming a second or two early against Sage tho. Wasn't all that impressive :/

namste

Finland2292 Posts

December 06 2011 20:18 GMT

#36

On December 07 2011 05:17 Diizzy wrote:
hes ranked 1 in korean ladder if that means anything... lol

It doesn't.

hp.Shell

United States2527 Posts

December 06 2011 20:18 GMT

#37

He'll be bonjwa by the first time he participates in Code S.

zerious

Canada3803 Posts

December 06 2011 20:19 GMT

#38

I would love to see a split map game between him and MVP on DayBreak or Crossfire

crawlingchaos

Canada2025 Posts

December 06 2011 20:19 GMT

#39

He's already overtaken TheBest for #1 position on the smirking ladder.

KimJongIlJr

Korea (North)61 Posts

December 06 2011 20:20 GMT

#40

No point in having GSL January, just hand him the trophy. Since he's obviously superior for playing BW might as well not bother having GSL until he gets bored. That way the rest of the world will have a chance to catch up to his superior play.

Thanks for saving me a subscription.