EPTThe Analytical Caster - A Twitter Story - Page 18
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xlava
United States676 Posts
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Partywave
United States88 Posts
I like the casters that we have right now. If Husky, Artosis, Day9, Tasteless, TB, etc casted for the duration of the Starcraft 2 franchise I would be happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
Yes, there will be occasional pro-gamer who would have the charisma and speaking skills to become a successful and re-known caster (cue Day9, Artosis, etc) but for the most, player casters would be unable to justice to a casting job. Homestory Cup player casting looks good because players cast 1 or 2 games in an informal manner, and that is the only time they have to cast. | ||
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FuryX
Australia495 Posts
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
Well don't really agree with people that say tastless isnt analystical, got really surprised when he casted Code A with KellyM and some other guy he did really good analyzes. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On January 04 2012 21:46 Tomken wrote: Can't wait to watch Rotterdam play in a good tournament, bestplayereu! Well don't really agree with people that say tastless isnt analystical, got really surprised when he casted Code A with KellyM and some other guy he did really good analyzes. He has good analysis. Just like Artosis also has good play-by-play. However as "tastosis" Artosis takes the analysis role while Tasteless does play-by-play. Along with Day9 they are the 3 most "complete" casters out there. Watch almost any "event boradcast" and you will notice one person doing a "play-by-play" while another (or several) do analysis/color commentary. I think as SC2 "settles down" (I don't mean becomes 'less popular') we'll see more players become casters. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
You can't be a caster and a player professionally at the same time. Time constraints don't allow it, as quite prominent people in this community have shown. Will we see professional players transition into casting? Sure. They'll be just as good/bad at it as our current casters, most of whom were players at some point also. (Huk mentioning casters being overpaid is kinda funny tho.) | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:37 Derez wrote: (Huk mentioning casters being overpaid is kinda funny tho.) It's funny because it is true. :/ | ||
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ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
This isn't entirely true  It makes us casters in general look bad! | ||
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frucisky
Singapore2170 Posts
On January 04 2012 23:42 d.Apollo wrote: This isn't entirely true It makes us casters in general look bad!Frankly I am curious. How much are casters paid? And how does this compare to a player who has consistently say, stayed in code S. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On January 04 2012 23:51 frucisky wrote: Frankly I am curious. How much are casters paid? And how does this compare to a player who has consistently say, stayed in code S. they are paid 100 thousand ESPORTS dollars, players are often paid 1 million ESPORTS dollars. This causes a little turmoil between players who think they should be paid 1.1 million ESPORTS dollars and casters. | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
Player casting as guests is really nice, but if they dont want to commit to being a caster, they cant expect to be one either. Only thing I really hate is solocasting  | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
Huk talking about people being overpaid is funny because he's getting paid more than most Koreans in code S because he's white. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:37 Derez wrote: What a pointless debate. You can't be a caster and a player professionally at the same time. Time constraints don't allow it, as quite prominent people in this community have shown. Will we see professional players transition into casting? Sure. They'll be just as good/bad at it as our current casters, most of whom were players at some point also. (Huk mentioning casters being overpaid is kinda funny tho.) You can be good at the game though. A masters player will typically have a higher understanding than someone who is gold (f.ex Bitter/Rotterdam/Orb). If they bring back 12 weeks, that will give people like Bitter even more insight into how players think when they play (since that was one of the major elements of the whole series). But ignoring the actual commentary itself anyway, camera control and game awareness is more important than what a caster says. If they are talking crap, I can just tune out or mute them, but if they aren't showing me what's going on in the game, either through use of more tabs tan just Production, or through poor camera control/screen use, then they are pretty worthless. Too many casters say "his economy is good/bad/etc", but they don't show the tab so they don't actually know. Analytical or play by play doesn't matter if you are just making stuff up. | ||
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Naniwa
Sweden477 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:37 Derez wrote: What a pointless debate. You can't be a caster and a player professionally at the same time. Time constraints don't allow it, as quite prominent people in this community have shown. Will we see professional players transition into casting? Sure. They'll be just as good/bad at it as our current casters, most of whom were players at some point also. (Huk mentioning casters being overpaid is kinda funny tho.) This one is still going? Ahem. Actually some have proved that they can step in and dissect a game pretty darn good when they aren't playing at that time. Multitasking! Some of them are better at analyzing as a result because they are actually in the trenches and many of them practice and play against one another all the time. They know each others tendencies and hence their analysis is more reliable. Plus, they mix it up. Take ClouD's stance for instance. He likes to talk about what's going inside a players head based on what he observes. Different takes are always welcome. Husky has improved by a lot over time, but he's following the classic template for play-by-play commentary, which is fine as long as you keep it fresh. * I'd agree with everyone else: casters are indeed overpaid compared to the players. They make more money than the vast majority of the pro's themselves. Casters have a hand in it for certain people; however, it has no affect on me because I know what I am watching. A good commentator is the icing on the cake for me. If I don't like what a caster has to say and find them unnecessary I mute them and do my own commentary. If the caster is entertaining and brings a little more to the cast then sure, I'll keep the volume on. Casters are viewed more important in the West because some people press for more growth. I keep telling them you cannot force the issue and it will grow over time. If you want to take an active role in the community then do so. Find your niche and produce. That's all there is to it. Right now, I'm fine with the size of the community. Heck, I was fine with the size of the community a decade ago too. Everything else is just gravy. | ||
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MrSunshine
Sweden93 Posts
Surely we can all agree that all casters should play the game to be more knowledgeable casters. I personally believe that high-level players most likely have a better understanding, however alot of them aren't able to explain themselves quite well compared to a caster whom has the 'gift of gab'. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On January 05 2012 00:12 Choboo wrote: Huk talking about people being overpaid is funny because he's getting paid more than most Koreans in code S because he's white. HuK isn't paid more because he's white, it's because he's on EG. You bet that if any top tier korean who's better than HuK decided to join EG they'd be getting way more dough. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3804 Posts
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