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mouzMorroW in Korea + GSL Code A January - Page 19

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xiaomqpnn
Profile Joined November 2011
United States3 Posts
November 30 2011 02:56 GMT
#361
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Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 30 2011 03:03 GMT
#362
Wait, there is actually a rule against race picking in the GSL?
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 30 2011 03:03 GMT
#363
On November 30 2011 10:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Kinda dissapointed by this news. I don't like that Morrow is basically getting a free Code A spot, and that he is going to be allowed an exception on a rule that has been around forever. Just because he is a fan favorite does not mean he should be able to bypass this kind of stuff, just undermines the tournament as a whole. At least make him qualify through MLG...

Wait.. There's a rule that prevents race picking in GSL? Never heard of that in a sc2 tournament, preventing race picking seems like such a kespa style bureaucracy move.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 30 2011 03:11 GMT
#364
On November 30 2011 12:03 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 10:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Kinda dissapointed by this news. I don't like that Morrow is basically getting a free Code A spot, and that he is going to be allowed an exception on a rule that has been around forever. Just because he is a fan favorite does not mean he should be able to bypass this kind of stuff, just undermines the tournament as a whole. At least make him qualify through MLG...

Wait.. There's a rule that prevents race picking in GSL? Never heard of that in a sc2 tournament, preventing race picking seems like such a kespa style bureaucracy move.



I believe it was mostly so you couldn't play as zerg for the whole tournament, then on the day of your next match show up as terran or something to completely baffle your oppenent. Idk though, something like that.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
November 30 2011 03:31 GMT
#365
I'm surprised he went to Korea soooo close to NASL, I mean he should basically be gone to wherever NASL is already to reduce jet lag, right?
billiebrightside
Profile Joined March 2011
United States150 Posts
November 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#366
Well.. if anyone can do it, it is morrow. If he applies himself, he'll be the next zerg foreigner pride in code S ^^
Mother always said: "My son, do the noble thing. You have to finish what you started now, no matter what. Now sit, watch, and learn!"
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 30 2011 03:36 GMT
#367
On November 30 2011 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 12:03 hifriend wrote:
On November 30 2011 10:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Kinda dissapointed by this news. I don't like that Morrow is basically getting a free Code A spot, and that he is going to be allowed an exception on a rule that has been around forever. Just because he is a fan favorite does not mean he should be able to bypass this kind of stuff, just undermines the tournament as a whole. At least make him qualify through MLG...

Wait.. There's a rule that prevents race picking in GSL? Never heard of that in a sc2 tournament, preventing race picking seems like such a kespa style bureaucracy move.



I believe it was mostly so you couldn't play as zerg for the whole tournament, then on the day of your next match show up as terran or something to completely baffle your oppenent. Idk though, something like that.


Is this actually written down somewhere?
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
November 30 2011 03:37 GMT
#368
Is there any word where MorroW's Code A spot is coming from?
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
November 30 2011 03:38 GMT
#369
Could someone please tell me how he got a Code A err up/down slot in GSL? Also I thought the new format throws foreigners directly into up/down matches NOT Code A.

If I am correct then I think there needs to be mass education and we need to stop saying "foreigner to Code A" and start saying "foreigner to GSL" and point out that they will be thrown directly into up/down matches.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 30 2011 03:39 GMT
#370
On November 30 2011 12:36 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On November 30 2011 12:03 hifriend wrote:
On November 30 2011 10:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Kinda dissapointed by this news. I don't like that Morrow is basically getting a free Code A spot, and that he is going to be allowed an exception on a rule that has been around forever. Just because he is a fan favorite does not mean he should be able to bypass this kind of stuff, just undermines the tournament as a whole. At least make him qualify through MLG...

Wait.. There's a rule that prevents race picking in GSL? Never heard of that in a sc2 tournament, preventing race picking seems like such a kespa style bureaucracy move.



I believe it was mostly so you couldn't play as zerg for the whole tournament, then on the day of your next match show up as terran or something to completely baffle your oppenent. Idk though, something like that.


Is this actually written down somewhere?



No idea. I know it is a rule though. Just speculating there. (Most logical reason in my eyes)
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
November 30 2011 03:45 GMT
#371
On November 30 2011 12:37 Packawana wrote:
Is there any word where MorroW's Code A spot is coming from?


Probably from the MLG seeds, since MLG isnt going on atm the seeds can be given to any top level players planning on going to korea
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 30 2011 03:46 GMT
#372
On November 30 2011 12:38 onedayclose wrote:
Could someone please tell me how he got a Code A err up/down slot in GSL? Also I thought the new format throws foreigners directly into up/down matches NOT Code A.

If I am correct then I think there needs to be mass education and we need to stop saying "foreigner to Code A" and start saying "foreigner to GSL" and point out that they will be thrown directly into up/down matches.


I don't think there's a fine distinction. GSL virtually inserts them anywhere. The new format allows 2 foreigners to enter up/downs right away, but that doesn't seem to put a limit on the number of foreigners they would allow into Code A on any merit.
phANT1m
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
South Africa535 Posts
November 30 2011 03:48 GMT
#373
Niceeeeeeeeeeeee. Hope Sculp shows him some sick moves and he rips up the ladder and Code A.

Need more foreigners fighting in GSL.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 04:03:39
November 30 2011 03:58 GMT
#374
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.

1/1/1 in fact is a good example of the crap you can do with switching races because of the ease of that strategy . Seriously, imagine 1 month ago, when no one knew how to deal with the 1/1/1. Imagine if Idra who historically has had issues against MC, just said, yeah I'm going to play Terran and do 1/1/1 this game.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 04:03:57
November 30 2011 04:02 GMT
#375
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.

He only plays TvZ... He's Zerg vs Protoss and Terran. Most tournaments that have allowed him to racepick have only allowed him to play TvZ. It means he MUST play Terran against Zerg and Zerg vs Protoss and Terran. He can't switch midway through tournament.

If the opponent is Zerg, they know they should practice vs Terran. If the opponents are Protoss or Terrans, they practice against Zerg. What's the difficulty?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
GettinMyFill
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia37 Posts
November 30 2011 04:03 GMT
#376
On November 30 2011 13:02 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.

He only plays TvZ... He's Zerg vs Protoss and Terran.

If the opponent is Zerg, they know they should practice vs Terran. If the opponents are Protoss or Terrans, they practice against Zerg. What's the difficulty?


There's none, morons are morons.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
November 30 2011 04:06 GMT
#377
On November 30 2011 13:03 GettinMyFill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:02 pdd wrote:
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.

He only plays TvZ... He's Zerg vs Protoss and Terran.

If the opponent is Zerg, they know they should practice vs Terran. If the opponents are Protoss or Terrans, they practice against Zerg. What's the difficulty?


There's none, morons are morons.


The only morons are those who call others morons for bringing up a good point.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 30 2011 04:06 GMT
#378
Can't wait for Morrow to rejoin the ranks of the elite zergs once again. He used to be mentioned a lot among the best foreigner zergs but he hasn't had a big showing at a major tournament in like 6 months. I have to wonder about his insistence on playing Terran vs Zerg though. In the GSL you have to prepare intently and specifically for your opponent. It would suck if MOrrow spent a month practicing zerg only to draw a terran in the first round of code A. Given the awful draws foreigners always get in code A it wouldn't surprise me if this happens.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 30 2011 04:14 GMT
#379
On November 30 2011 13:06 GhostFall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:03 GettinMyFill wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:02 pdd wrote:
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.

He only plays TvZ... He's Zerg vs Protoss and Terran.

If the opponent is Zerg, they know they should practice vs Terran. If the opponents are Protoss or Terrans, they practice against Zerg. What's the difficulty?


There's none, morons are morons.


The only morons are those who call others morons for bringing up a good point.

But your point is not a good point.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
November 30 2011 04:17 GMT
#380
Isn't this the man that made Nestea try for the first time in zvz?
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