EPTAnd Grats Liquid on conquering another tourney!
DreamHack - Appreciation Thread - Page 3
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Baozer
Sweden159 Posts
And Grats Liquid on conquering another tourney! | ||
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Malinor
Germany4729 Posts
The production value was just out of this world. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
Other than that, it was all amazing! | ||
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Some points Pros: - 1080p free stream - When tasteless had to go to hospital what shall we do? No problem, find TLO! - Fantastic casting - BPM meter was pretty cool, not a first for esports but a first for SC2. - The other game finals were pretty good as well, especially QL and HoN, enjoyed them muchly. - The crowd and the stadium were fantastic. - A proper tournament structure, easy to understand, with no stupid rules. Top two in groups go through, then win the bracket. - Every match was casted. I can't stress how good being able to choose who to watch was. What is the point of a tournament where you can't watch the games? Cons: (these are all obviously personal) - The main host for the event was an idiot, the "that's what she said" joke deserved to be booed. 2GD ftw. - Some stream problems near the start, but it all sorted itself out. - Would like to have a twitter or something that tells you EVERY time a different match is about to start on another stream, because switching between streams was a little frustrating. Those are tiny problems though, and i am sure even the caster would have been okay if he had just backed down a little instead of trying to be the king. | ||
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dala
Sweden477 Posts
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Lassepetri
Denmark112 Posts
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
other than that.. imo, the streaming crew should try to adjust cast and advertisment volumes a little bit. I always had to go to my computer to turn down the volume during advertisements, because they were just streamed like 50% louder than the normal video. I know this is common practice, but it's a really bad one. I can't just sit on the couch and watch or something, because then some advertisement comes up which is so much louder that i have to turn it down to not wake anybody in the house at 1am. Please stop doing it, it's horribly inconvenient and actually counter-productive because i'm going to look for the volume slider instead of at the advertisement because of this  | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
That said once esports get bigger all this music on streams and music at tournaments will have to stop completely. For now no one has noticed. | ||
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Seanza
171 Posts
For the first time in my 4 or so years involved in competitive gaming, the hairs on my arms, legs and neck were all standing when I watched from the countdown to the game starting. The only thing where I think DreamHack failed (and it really was a failure) was the use of Tejbz. He was incredibly unprepared, didn't know the names of ANY of the personalities he was hosting infront of. This wasn't limited to the SC2 players but he called the legendary Quake Live player Av3k (pronounced ah-veck) "A V Three K" and forgot the name of the shoutcasters for all the tournaments. I hope he's not invited back next time, or at the very least is given some training. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6248 Posts
On November 27 2011 18:23 DaCruise wrote: Just gonna made it short. Bad stuff: -Some stream issues with lag on the first 2 days, -Uninteresting map pool imo Good stuff: -Everything else! Where Dreamhack stands out to me is the stream quality (1080p), very little downtime, hardly any delays, stadium-like atmosphere at the finals like it was some football match, laid back and fun, yet profesional casting and finally great tournament format, maybe with the exception of some random draws and seeds. The lag issues were probably not from DreamHacks side they had some crazy fucking internet. They really should stop cooperating with twitch imo, it always lags for me and it's annoying as hell especially when you know DH has beastly internet. | ||
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PlanB
United States3 Posts
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On November 27 2011 18:39 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I'm guessing those stats are all streams of all games combined? I think they learned how to do it from MLG. | ||
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Seanza
171 Posts
On November 27 2011 19:46 RvB wrote: The lag issues were probably not from DreamHacks side they had some crazy fucking internet. They really should stop cooperating with twitch imo, it always lags for me and it's annoying as hell especially when you know DH has beastly internet. Their internet was experiencing downtime during day 1 & 2, this was an on-site thing with Telia which the managed to get reoslved. So, I highly doubt it's anything to do with Twitch this time around. With that being said, why should they stop cooperating with Twitch just because a few people get some lag via Twitch? The majority are probably able to watch just fine. Twitch are playing a huge factor in the growth of competitive gaming as well, they deserve to work with big events. | ||
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
On November 27 2011 19:44 Seanza wrote: For me, this was a defining tournament. To my knowledge (which is admittedly not great), I have never seen a tournament outside of SEA that has brought out finalists the way DreamHack did for this event. Nor have I seen the use of the heartrate monitors in Starcraft 2. For the first time in my 4 or so years involved in competitive gaming, the hairs on my arms, legs and neck were all standing when I watched from the countdown to the game starting. The only thing where I think DreamHack failed (and it really was a failure) was the use of Tejbz. He was incredibly unprepared, didn't know the names of ANY of the personalities he was hosting infront of. This wasn't limited to the SC2 players but he called the legendary Quake Live player Av3k (pronounced ah-veck) "A V Three K" and forgot the name of the shoutcasters for all the tournaments. I hope he's not invited back next time, or at the very least is given some training. I agree, when Tejbz came on I thought to myself; WTF? All day, all night...  No but really, 2GD would have done it so much better. As a host you most know the name of the players that are going to play at least. One solution is to let one of the casters act as host for every final, as they did in the end with day9. Tejbz seemed really unprepared and unprofessional, I felt kinda sad for him until he started making those awkward jokes. Hope for something better in that regard next time Dreamhack. Overall a amazing tournament and it was nice to have both day9 and tasteless at the same event, I love 'em :D | ||
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Ingwaz
Sweden70 Posts
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CaptainCharisma
New Zealand808 Posts
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On November 27 2011 19:44 SimDawg wrote: I'm 100% sure they're not allowed to broadcast those songs without paying for them, and I'm 99% sure they're not paying. If you wanted to screw DH over all you'd need to do is send an email to a record label with a link to the DH VODs. MLG does it right and uses music from a service. That said once esports get bigger all this music on streams and music at tournaments will have to stop completely. For now no one has noticed. Do you know Sweden's law system? I'll admit that i dont know about it but in Poland they would just need to pay about 110 Euro (for the size of Dreamarea) for the usage of music as a background | ||
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Ph4ZeD
United Kingdom753 Posts
Liked: Caster couch - everyone knows you sometimes need downtime for the players to watch replays or collect their thoughts, it was so much better to see the casters chatting, making jokes and getting excited with the crowd. Liked: Guest casters - I'm amazing no tournament has figured yet that the community LOVES guest casters and SC2 players casting in particular! Sheth and TLO were brilliant. Liked: Dat stadium! I would always prefer a small room packed with noisy people than an a huge half full arena, but hell yeah you filled it. Hero's face when he walked out for the finals and realised just how many were cheering for him was amazing, and the casters were feeding off the crowd a lot and were very excited themselves. Liked: No extended series! And proper bo5 semis then bo7 finals. Take note MLG, people do NOT want bo3 finals, its a joke. We want a system that showcases skill and makes sure the best player wins. Liked: Free HD streams. Liked: VODs up very quickly. Disliked: Some stream issues, I know that isn't Dreamhack directly but its still an issue. Thankfully they were mostly resolved for the final. Disliked: During the group stages, it was hard to keep track of which games were on. You need a MLG live blog system to keep people informed, people HATE missing their favourite players play! | ||
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