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I loved dreamhack!!! The tournament format was really straight forward and made sure the absolute best advanced only.
Besides that the production value and stream quality (besides the twitch problems) is the best i've seen so far. Especially the finals setting with the other casters talking about the games inbetween and everything.
Best tournament thus far, and next year i'll be sure to be there again!
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Dreamhack never fails to deliver. It was so amazing, I enjoyed the whole weekend. The biggest thing for me was how fast the games were cast, as much as I was concerned for the caster's well-being and exhaustion, it was pretty good as a viewing perspective. The games were pretty sick, the format was really good and production is always top notch. If it can attract the kind of player pool MLG does it would be absolutely incredible but as it is it falls short of the hype that MLG manages to pull off, which is unfortunate. (Apart from the final, I was going crazy with excitement).
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On November 27 2011 20:33 Satyric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 19:44 SimDawg wrote: I'm 100% sure they're not allowed to broadcast those songs without paying for them, and I'm 99% sure they're not paying. If you wanted to screw DH over all you'd need to do is send an email to a record label with a link to the DH VODs. MLG does it right and uses music from a service.
That said once esports get bigger all this music on streams and music at tournaments will have to stop completely. For now no one has noticed. You are 100% wrong. Sweden =! USA http://www.stim.se/en/Users/Restaurants-entertainment-culture/Exhibitions-/
You are wrong, he is 199% wrong.
Edit: And I think it is the stream license that is being used, a license that DH has.
http://www.stim.se/en/Users/Internet/Streaming/
"@Darthozzan @Slasher DreamHack has a license to play any kind of music legally so its no problem." - Hellspawnlord (SC2 head admin)
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On November 27 2011 20:38 Thrombozyt wrote: What is an 'average peak' in the viewer numbers? Is it the average, or is it the peak?
I wondered that too. 
The average should measured between time A and time B, per day or over the whole tourny for example. "Average peak" would obviously be very high if they measured the average for only 1h during the final day when most streams were running, so that doesnt really say anything. If defined properly, an average doesnt even have a peak..... because its.... an average.
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- Awesome Games - Lots of Upsets - probably best caster lineup possible - ESPORT SOFA incl hilarious trash talking ( Im waiting for that sc2+ssf match apollo and artosis) - finally Heros first Major Title
and of course the fucking amazing swedish crowd in a frickin stadium, wow you guys were amazing and sitting a home I had chills^^
Dreamhack always delivers and it's not even a sc2 dedicated event, for IPL 3 I voted 8,5 ish but for dreamhack winter I considered a 10 for the first time but since we should always leave room for improvement and twitch kinda ruined the groupstages with lags let's say 9.!! gogogo Dreamhack 2012
PS: Was there a reason why so few koreans attended this time? sorry if I missed it Dreamhack announced it.
€ Dreamhack and Homestory cup have the best fucking music and I think this time had the first not-awkward player walk-in in a non korean tournament. Au contraire it was epic, just look at Hero's face.
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The best tournament thus far. Sorry IPL, dreamhack was better.
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awesome event
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On November 27 2011 20:37 Kreb wrote:
The one big thing DH lacks: - Higher quality games, more better players. I felt that given the player pool, a 32 or 48 player tournament wouldve been better. Day1 and 2 were also kinda meh in terms of the match quality (ToD vs Happy anyone?), although day 3 naturally made up for some of it. If DH can find a way to attract more Koreans and possibly even more high level foreigners, it would give them an amazing boost as an overall tournament. Work on that, DH! If it isnt possible (I completely understand why it isnt an easy thing to do), consider lowering the amount of players to create a higher density of high quality games. Even with 32 players doing 4-player group into Ro16-single-elim-style, theres more than enough games to fill three days with. You might even be able to stream all games with 2-3 concurrent streams up.
I disagree completely with this. The no-names saved this tournament when the big names played like crap. Your example with ToD and Happy is a very bad example, the level of play in that game wasn't horrendous, it was just that no player attacked at a point that made it a boring snore fest. ToD would definitely have been in a 32 player field as well and probably Happy too.
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It was an awesome event thank you for the free HQ stream,it was awesome to see Starcraft on a Stadium!!!
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On November 27 2011 21:01 theBALLS wrote: The best tournament thus far. Sorry IPL, dreamhack was better.
This, everything was just fantastic, the comedy segmants to kill time, the casting, the stream quality (shame about the lag sometimes, but that's just twitch.tv for europe) and the finals were awesome, especially having the other four casters on stage to make for funny interludes between games rather than forcing two casters to kill time. The crowd also really helped and even just listening to it made you feel the real atmosphere.
I was a bit dissapointed with the sound levels of the music on the entrances and the ceremony though. Seemed far too loud compared to everything else. Just blew my ears off.
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On November 27 2011 19:44 SimDawg wrote: I'm 100% sure they're not allowed to broadcast those songs without paying for them, and I'm 99% sure they're not paying. If you wanted to screw DH over all you'd need to do is send an email to a record label with a link to the DH VODs. MLG does it right and uses music from a service.
That said once esports get bigger all this music on streams and music at tournaments will have to stop completely. For now no one has noticed. I'm pretty convinced you are wrong, as it has been mentioned earlier Dreamhack is a festival not an esport event. Bans from labels like universal etc. Have been performing at dreamhack for years. And also since it is also declared as a "cultural event" and financially supported by the state I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be breaking any Swedish law.
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Probably the best tourney organization ever! 2GD was probably right, when you get used to Dreamhack, other tourneys might have some annoying issues ;D
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Simply the VERY BEST tourney for viewers.
- FREE 1080p (some lag coming from twitch tv as usual ¬¬). - ALL top casters (Apollo+Tb+Day9+Artosis+Tasteless + TLO sick sick caster for high level analysis, OMG!!) - Amazing stadium! - Top production values, no offense, but for example when watching nasl finals it was evident that someone say something like "nah, lets cut that....and that....and that too, i can find something cheaper". Here almost everything was top notch. - Sick line up, with Providence the best up to date.
I'll love to see some feedback FROM THE PLAYERS :D
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Well, everything I wanted to say has already been mentioned.
I'm just gonna say "thank you" and please keep doing what you do! Dreamhack ♥
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On November 27 2011 20:37 Kreb wrote:
The one big thing DH lacks: - Higher quality games, more better players. I felt that given the player pool, a 32 or 48 player tournament wouldve been better. Day1 and 2 were also kinda meh in terms of the match quality (ToD vs Happy anyone?), although day 3 naturally made up for some of it. If DH can find a way to attract more Koreans and possibly even more high level foreigners, it would give them an amazing boost as an overall tournament. Work on that, DH! If it isnt possible (I completely understand why it isnt an easy thing to do), consider lowering the amount of players to create a higher density of high quality games. Even with 32 players doing 4-player group into Ro16-single-elim-style, theres more than enough games to fill three days with. You might even be able to stream all games with 2-3 concurrent streams up.
ToD is korean Gm you cutie troll : ) Even the MLG have the open bracket, and it is fine to be that way, so new improving faces came up eventually (Thorzain, Stephano, Gatored, and so)
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My favorite moment was when Tejbz went off the stage after doing another one of his crap interviews/introductions... his mic was still on and he goes on saying in swedish "I havn't rehearsed anything at all" in a i-dont-give-a-fuck voice. Hopefully the last time he's on stage.
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On November 27 2011 21:20 Kira__ wrote: My favorite moment was when Tejbz went off the stage after doing another one of his crap interviews/introductions... his mic was still on and he goes on saying in swedish "I havn't rehearsed anything at all" in a i-dont-give-a-fuck voice. Hopefully the last time he's on stage.
Dreamhack was great, but I can't for my life understand the choise of using him to host the thing. He is a xbox 360 cod pubstar that have a youtube channel and twitter for kids.
They really didn't think very far on that one, I guess they just got twitter follower horny and forgot the rest, Hopefully that comment was the last thing he said on that stage.
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I really loved DH, the discussion shit was awesome. Also I really loved that they kept the casting pairs together, compared to MLG where I feel the constant switching is quite frustrating+ Show Spoiler +(and to be honest, MLG just keeps leaving the best casters on the bench while JP is casting shitton, though I love the guy he just ain't that good of a caster) . Also since no one seems that interested in improving double elimination, single elimination is the way to go for the end. Don't really care about the bracket stuff, seemed to me like it came out at about the same as just having them fewer and bigger to begin with.
The negative: Stop the bait and switch. People will say "it was on the schedule", but it's still frustrating, can't you show consolidation matches or something while the players are getting ready for the finals/semi finals, if that is the actual reason for putting it there? If it's not, please just stop it, if I like Quake and SF don't you think I'd be watching it anyway? The only positive thing about it was 2GD.
In general it was a pretty awesome tourney.
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I LOVED the player intro @ the grand final. It was just so smooth and easy - players going straight to the booths while the crowd goes nuts and music is playing. I got so pumped. I wish more tournaments would just do this rather than having someone on stage go "Ok guys make sure to cheer the loudest you can" and then have the players come up on stage and have some half-awkward pre-game interview with questions like "will you win? how are you gonna win?" and then make the players shake hand and get into the booths.
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