EPTSorry, there is a reason that in most language scools for english Koreans/Chinese have to chose "western" nicknames.
Nicknames? Why? - Page 9
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Velr
Switzerland10876 Posts
Sorry, there is a reason that in most language scools for english Koreans/Chinese have to chose "western" nicknames. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Ayamis
United States28 Posts
Using names would make it alot easier to know who the heck some of these progamers who change their name over and over are *cough* Major/Terran/Princess/Windy *cough* | ||
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Kar98
Australia924 Posts
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pzu
Sweden287 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:54 Ayamis wrote: I personally like the fusion of real names and gamer tags that has been going on with some gamers, stuff like Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson makes it easy to remember who the person is, uses their real name, and allows people to add their own little flair to their name/introduction, giving personality. Using names would make it alot easier to know who the heck some of these progamers who change their name over and over are *cough* Major/Terran/Princess/Windy *cough* Hey man, he's now known as CuteAngel! Get it right! BD | ||
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chingchong99
Nauru64 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
That's not the only thing that might look "stupid" to a newcomer, but it doesn't mean we have to change to look better in the eyes of newcomers. Our subculture is proud of being the way it is, and sooner or later more and more people appreciate it the way it is. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On November 22 2011 13:32 jinorazi wrote: its a cultural thing i guess. using nicks would be looked down upon in korea for its lack of professionalism plus inability to pronounce some of the names correctly, and childish (like wwe). nicks help in the states because it has a huge pool of various names. if ya'll want this to be mainstream, or professional, at a level that it can be broadcasted on TV like in korea, real name is a must for its professionalism. however, if you want it to be more like WWE-ish (i assume why using nick seems so natural to many), nicks will do fine. whatever the case, i wish they present both. some players i know by real name and some players i know by nick, naturally i know bw players by real name and sc2 players by their nick because i get my bw source in korean while sc2 source in english (DAMN YOU GOM, ALLOW KOREAN STREAMS FOR FOREIGN COUNTRIES!!!) comparing it to sports athlete's nick name isn't really comparable since most of them of earned, not made up. and its a nick, just that, not used as official. you dont see "King James" when showing player stats. (however players can choose what name they want to use, like Chicharito) i prefer real name if i had to choose but i really dont care, i see positives for both. I agree. I find it strange that a lot of people here want esports to become more popular but at the same time insist on using childish stuff like nicknames. I cringe every time Tasteless and Artosis introduce themselves as "I am tasteless and with me is artosis" instead of "I'm Nick/Nicholas Plott and with me is Dan Stemkoski." Neither nickname sounds positive to an outsider (artosis actually sounds like a disease). | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
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sevia
United States954 Posts
Player image is becoming more and more important as e-sports becomes popular, and it's a lot easier to tie a face to a real name than it is to a nickname. In my experience, people new to SC find games much easier to follow when it's, for example, Chris Loranger vs. Greg Fields rather than Huk vs. Idra. With the nicks, they're just faceless players 'from the internet.' But using real names instead helps people attach the playstyles and online personalities to the physical players, increasing awareness of progaming as a profession. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
For example, imagine if ex-sc legend Elky wanted the casters to pronounce his name, Bertrand Grospellier, well good luck for anyone who doesnt speak french. Now that he's a poker pro, casters still call him Elky, because he's known as such and it's easier to pronounce. (i didnt watch a lot of poker but in High Stakes Poker and TheBigGame they refer to him as Elky) On November 22 2011 16:44 prplhz wrote: i think the op is totally right nicks are quite stupid mention one other sport where people use nicknames instead of their real name? nicknames make it look like you're trying to hide your identity or you're trying to make something cooler than it actually is as i said, many sports or commentators use both, poker, wrestling etc. use them regularily and "real" sports use them all the time, in fact many football players dont use their real name but make up one for themselves because the original one is too long or hard to pronounce, like Pele, deemed greatest player of all time | ||
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how
United States538 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
You don't see EGGregFields Thus, it goes that in tourneys, he is called EGIdrA. Fans know his real name, casters know his real name. His real name is not important to anyone else. Are you saying every single professional should change their ladder accounts do their real names? Should EVERYONE on battlenet be seen by their real names just because you hate gamertags? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
This is true. However, this also has to do with culture. For Koreans, it's much more difficult trying to pronounce the nicknames of professional players. Some players have names that would just be too hard for Korean caster to have to pronounce every single time they wanted to mention that player. Because Korean people grew up learning how to pronounce Korean names, it is only natural that Korean casters are this way as well. Just as if American casters would probably say the real names of American people in a sport or event (excluding SC2) because Americans grew up learning how to pronounce american names. Can you imagine Korean caster trying to say "Johnathanv(jinro), or Aleksey (white-ra), or Johan (Naniwa) every single time they wanted to mention that player? | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On November 22 2011 17:32 Geo.Rion wrote: We've been here and discussed this so many times. Korean casters can pronounce correctly the korean names 100% of the times, (and Korean fans can learn them) but believe me american casters (so most of the important ones) can't pronounce at least half of the players' name correctly. Plus western culture is more prone to use nicknames, look at other sports, in many cases they use both the players's nicknames and real names from time to time, and sometime use only the nicknames. For example, imagine if ex-sc legend Elky wanted the casters to pronounce his name, Bertrand Grospellier, well good luck for anyone who doesnt speak french. Now that he's a poker pro, casters still call him Elky, because he's known as such and it's easier to pronounce. (i didnt watch a lot of poker but in High Stakes Poker and TheBigGame they refer to him as Elky) Your argument is that someone who earns a living casting cannot take a few minutes to practice saying someones name? Listen to how the name is said, repeat until comfortable, cast. God forbid someone would actually have to learn a non english sounding name. Seriously the more you hear the names the easier it will be. The only reason you don't know and cannot pronounce the names is because you haven't been exposed to them enough. | ||
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ninjan
Sweden60 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On November 22 2011 17:38 Egyptian_Head wrote: Your argument is that someone who earns a living casting cannot take a few minutes to practice saying someones name? Listen to how the name is said, repeat until comfortable, cast. God forbid someone would actually have to learn a non english sounding name. Seriously the more you hear the names the easier it will be. The only reason you don't know and cannot pronounce the names is because you haven't been exposed to them enough. Casters might learn, although in my experience they dont. What about fans, take my example, they hear Grospellier they go to TLPD try to type something like Grapoleea, and thye wont find it. Or they try to learn Korean names, there are like 100 pros, and how many of them have Kim or Park or Dong or something starting with Yo.. in their names? Yes it can be learned, is it easy? No. | ||
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