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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Boxing Darts UFC all use nicknames in any ring announcement or mini bio of the player even in snooker. EG, Anderson "Spider" Silva or Floyd "Money" Mayweather. No reason why they cant be interviewed as both "hi im with Greg Idra Fields" does not really bother me but you cant just whipe out there nicknames or it becomes pointless having one. | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Jim7
United States154 Posts
If you're a gamer then you'll get it. Most gamers know what a gamertag or an online nickname is but those won't be the people you want to target for it to grow outside of the gaming community. Though maybe everyone outside of the video game sphere knows what an online alias is so it might not that big of a deal. I guess if those MLG/ESPN talks ever come to anything and we do see SC2 on tv we'll see what non gamers think about it. | ||
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Mehukannu
Finland421 Posts
On November 22 2011 17:42 Geo.Rion wrote: Casters might learn, although in my experience they dont. What about fans, take my example, they hear Grospellier they go to TLPD try to type something like Grapoleea, and thye wont find it. Or they try to learn Korean names, there are like 100 pros, and how many of them have Kim or Park or Dong or something starting with Yo.. in their names? Yes it can be learned, is it easy? No. I love it when some people go on about how hard it is to learn peoples name from another country without even trying. I don't it is going to be hard to learn pro players real name, since all you have to do is to watch and follow the scene and at some point you are going to remember most of the pro players real names. Most likely you don't even need to try to remember their names since it will come around naturally the more you hear casters say their names or read about them in the forums. | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
It doesnt make it any more legitimate imo. Let us be the way we want to be. Dont see why people will think wrong about it. The real world isnt the internet you know. | ||
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:09 theBALLS wrote: Because that's what they're known by? And good luck remembering all the Korean names. This. I might know some people by their real name but far far more by their nick. It's not like you are playing 'Greg Fields' on ladder, you are playing Idra, you might be watching Spanishiwa games on youtube ... hell, the casters might not even know the real names of the players on youtube, why should they use them? It's good with consistency between youtube, teamliquid, MLG, GSL, and other arenas. And since not everyone will have their real name officially known, you can't use real names for everyone. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
However, in the last few years (as I continue to mature and 'grow up') I'm more and more disgusted with how bad some online communities can get when people can hide behind fake names. + Show Spoiler + as illustrated by a famous penny-arcade strip ![[image loading]](http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215499488_8pSZr-L-2.jpg) I do however think that large offline tournaments should use real names more (along with nicknames). Not only because it does "legitimize" the image somewhat, it also gives the players more RL exposure which is important for sponsoring. (Kind of how the NFL has tried to give players more 'face time' so fans are familiar with a players face so that commercials don't constantly need to promote their promoter.) | ||
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Cham
797 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:13 PSIKevin wrote: Would you rather the casters say And coming up next we have Lee Jung Hoon vs Kim Hammar Or And coming up next we have MarineKingPrime vs. QIMSase I would prefer the first choice personally. | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
I mean really, which name do you think sounds more badass? There's certain things that set eSports apart from other sports, and this is one aspect that I LIKE. | ||
Falling
Canada11496 Posts
But gamer tags comes from game culture and I think it's something worth keeping. It's not offensive and as long as gamers choose their tags wisely it'll be fine. (Some can be quite atrocious.) And as long as they don't change them all the time like Piano/Organ, and that Optimus switch around. Personally I also have an easier time remembering tags rather than Korean names. I simply haven't grown up with very many Korean names so the names don't stand out as well as names I'm used to. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On November 22 2011 18:04 Mehukannu wrote: I love it when some people go on about how hard it is to learn peoples name from another country without even trying. I don't it is going to be hard to learn pro players real name, since all you have to do is to watch and follow the scene and at some point you are going to remember most of the pro players real names. Most likely you don't even need to try to remember their names since it will come around naturally the more you hear casters say their names or read about them in the forums. I actually could learn very easily, i speak like 4 languages and can read in 3 more so i wont have any problem, but i ve seen and heard people and casters struggle. Open up any game any match where idk someone from a random EU country is playing, and you know how their names should be pronounced. Do they pronounce it correctly? most of the times they dont, even with superstars, let alone ppl who appear for the first time. Every thread would have 10 more pages of flame when a caster just flat out fails to pronounce or if two casters dont agree on how to pronounce it, or make fun of it god forbid because it sound silly or complicated. And there are weird cases when a player is from X country but he hails from somewhere else so casters go like ok, he's German, we pronounce it like that, and it turns out he's Italian. If i'd be a pro i'd have the same problem, I live in Romania and am Hungarian and have a Hungarian name, but who cares about me, take Naniwa, he definetly has an Italian sounding name, but i have no idea if he has Italian background or how he wants us to pronounce his name. Or most recent interview of Huk, i mean, Huk, one of the foreigners on the hottest streak, the interview starts with the commentator trying to pronounce his name like 3 times and doesnt really manages, and he's Canadian for god's sake, try someone from Estonia or Hungary or any smaller European countries. Imagine the job of the weekly tourney casters where they cast games of players who are 70% different each week, or someone who tries to break trough, wins a couple of small cups but no one remembers him cuz they didnt learn his name. Bottom line, it's unpractical, and creates contraversy. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
the arguement about: we/casters don't know the real names, well that would change. And in the long run it would be better for esports to call everybody by their real names | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On November 22 2011 17:42 Geo.Rion wrote: Casters might learn, although in my experience they dont. What about fans, take my example, they hear Grospellier they go to TLPD try to type something like Grapoleea, and thye wont find it. Or they try to learn Korean names, there are like 100 pros, and how many of them have Kim or Park or Dong or something starting with Yo.. in their names? Yes it can be learned, is it easy? No. While I haven't formed an opinion on this topic yet I would like to comment on these quotes. I follow the figure skating/ ice dancing scene and both the regular commentators in most countries and the fans can pretty much ( with regards to accents, etc) correctly pronounce pretty much any well known( or up and coming) skater's name. It sure as hell isn't easy given that competitiors come from all over the world and yet we manage with the professional commentators leading the way and fans learning from them. If starcraft 2 wanted to go that way it could be done, with everyone educating themselves on how things are said and spelled over time. If people care enough to educate themselves there is no realistic reason they can't know who Park Sung Joon or Park Soo Ho are and why they should not be confused with each other. Nevermind that some forigners names look equally daunting but possible to learn. I'm not saying it must be done just that it certainly can be if people really care about this thing they are supposedly fans of. | ||
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FaZe
Canada472 Posts
My screen name is FaZe. There are lots of Shaynes. | ||
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Redn3ck
United States18 Posts
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sodapop
Sweden189 Posts
Or am I the only one that is somewhat embarrassed to introduce professional SC2 matches to friends just because the commentators refer to eachother as "Artosis", "Tasteless" & "Day Nine" and the players as "Killer" and "Nestea"? On pronunciation, it's the same thing in all sports. Every other sports commentator can handle names from different countries. It takes 5 minutes of preparation, and that is something that I expect of the commentary. Thanks. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:13 PSIKevin wrote: Would you rather the casters say And coming up next we have Lee Jung Hoon vs Kim Hammar Or And coming up next we have MarineKingPrime vs. QIMSase The former. I never understood why we call people by their in-game names. I think that starting to go by real names instead would be a step in the right direction. | ||
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
It doesn't have to be an EITHER / OR situation you know. | ||
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