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Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
November 22 2011 05:22 GMT
#121
I think that the players should be known by their ID, however I think the casters should be using their real names. It sounds silly to have two human beings introduce each other and refer to each other by their nicknames...
That's what she said
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
November 22 2011 05:23 GMT
#122
I believe that in BW, players are referred to by their real names. That is if your nickname is not your real name as well (lol jaedong). I think the most familiar nickname is obviously boxer.
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
November 22 2011 05:23 GMT
#123
On November 22 2011 14:00 VillageBC wrote:
Both!

Except for Princess, Terran, Major, CuteAngel or whatever his nickname is now. We should just call him him his real name, whatever that is.


I think his real name is Britney. Can't be sure though.
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Accer
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)319 Posts
November 22 2011 05:24 GMT
#124
Nicknames for players doesn't bother me much, though I like hearing their real names too. If I were ever to meet a pro gamer in person I would feel awkward to greet them by their first name, I wouldn't say "hey Chris," I'd say, "Hey huk".

On the other hand, Casters should use their real names, at least in my opinion. It would add a certain flair of professionalism and likely make it easier to digest for first time viewers. Handles for players makes sense for a player since it's not dissimilar to a stage name, such as in wrestling. Casters however, are seen as actual people during the cast and receive a lot of face time so it makes sense for their real names to be used. Not to mention that it would not be hard either, there aren't that many casters who do so professionally.
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
November 22 2011 05:26 GMT
#125
Well for BW I learned real names cause otherwise I wouldn't know who's playing in proleague games , and for SC2 I think it's fine that the names we know them by are their in-game names. The graphics say what their names are, so that's what they're associated with. And some of them sound cooler than their normal names.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:27:42
November 22 2011 05:27 GMT
#126
On November 22 2011 14:04 Mehukannu wrote:
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On November 22 2011 13:47 Jaiden wrote:
Real names are a really personal thing for me. All my friends use my first name, but usually i dont want any stranger referring me in that way. Thats just not polite to call someone unasked with their full or first name. Nicknames are a bridge because you can speak with someone without being to personal.

While Casting its different, because the players and caster are in the spotlight. Normally all interested viewers know the name of the important players and thats fine. But i think its just easier to refer someone in the heat of a battle with "Socke" instead of Giacomo or Pavel (Brat_OK).

I don't see how referring to a certain player in a heat of battle would be in anyway be hard thing to do, when all the matches are 1v1.
Hell, They are calling every player their real name in ice hockey too and there are much more players in the field and it is much more fast paced than starcraft yet the commentators doesn't seem to have that much problems on pronouncing players names during matches.

You're comparing someone who has decided to do sports broadcasting/casting for a career, opposed to someone who happened to cast video games and became popular/pursued it deeply.

Also the action isn't much more fast paced in hockey, theres only one puck, you only follow the puck, in sc2 you have 2 bases of macro, and usually multi pronged attacks, that is much more hectic than LEMEUIX TO JAGR, JAGR TO LEMEUIX, THEY CROSS THE BLUE LINE, SHOOTS, SCORESS !!

Not to mention that sports casters usually BUTCHER someones name if they havent seen it before or practiced it. Check out any national cast of a team that is usually cast by a local broadcasting station, and has emptied their bench. Half the commentators are scratching for relevant information to claim about those players, and cannot pronounce their names correctly.

Hell I remember Rajon Rondo having his name butchered, is it Ra Jon, RayJohn, Raw John, and this was the year after he was a starter for the NBA Champions.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
November 22 2011 05:28 GMT
#127
Lots of pro athletes have nicknames, just look at MMA. All the top fighters have nicknames. In esports it's reversed, everybody has a nickname but only the top players are known by their real names.

Plus, nicknames are a great equalizer among remembering players who have foreign names. I dig them, they're not that awkward and if you think they are the problem lies in you, not the phenomenon.
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AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
November 22 2011 05:33 GMT
#128
I think it's better to go by the nickname that players choose before their actual names. I don't remember the video or which season, but I remember Artosis saying something before one of the GSL matches. I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like "Your parents choose your name, you choose your player ID". If a player picks an ID, it's because it has some important meaning to them.
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EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
November 22 2011 05:34 GMT
#129
To be honest, it doesn't really matter. If you'd like to think of nicknames as nerdying up the community and making it kind of cheesey/corny, then you're allowed to do so. But as many people said, with the amount of foreign players in SCII that make up the diverse progaming leagues, it's a lot easier saying White-Ra than Aleksey Krupnyk or Leenock than Lee Dong Nyung. If not for the very international community, then yes, I agree, if the casters can say the names properly, then they should be free to regard them with either their name or nickname.
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:40:48
November 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#130
On November 22 2011 14:33 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
I think it's better to go by the nickname that players choose before their actual names. I don't remember the video or which season, but I remember Artosis saying something before one of the GSL matches. I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like "Your parents choose your name, you choose your player ID". If a player picks an ID, it's because it has some important meaning to them.

That's not always the case, if I'm not mistaken, NesTea was going to be ZergBong, but Bong is banned as a word by Blizzard, and there was a bottle of NesTea sitting on the table, so he became NesTea.

The story might be cool and interesting, but the name doesn't seem to have very much importance to him, at least initially.
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mangoloid
Profile Joined September 2010
100 Posts
November 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#131
I'm probably echoing a number of posters in this thread, but I think nicknames are fine. I think it's unreasonable to expect such an international audience to remember real names. Korean names are difficult to remember for non-Korean speakers, etc. I think it's also important to remember that nicknames really help create a player 'identity' which is instantly recognizable. MarineKing is the obvious example on this point, but even unassuming or obscure nicknames say something about the player who chose those handles.

Real names are fine too, though. I think as a matter of respect a player's real name ought to be used in real-life situations, ie pregame introductions, interviews, and so on. (And if the player would rather be known by his nickname in those situations, use that.) In-game, however, or when discussing a game, casters should use the nickname.

I think the only time I find nicknames slightly awkward are when the casters use them for each other. But I suppose that's up to the casters.

Really, the only time we should be using real names for players is when we are taking to them in real life, otherwise their nickname is much more convenient and identifiable.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
November 22 2011 05:42 GMT
#132
You should stop comparing eSports to traditional sports OP. eSports is its own animal, and can set whatever conventions it likes.
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
November 22 2011 05:43 GMT
#133
Is it really that much harder to remember Min Chul and Seung Chul compared to MC and SC? If you can remember Dongraegu why can't you remember Park Soo Hoo?
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
November 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#134
On November 22 2011 12:08 Fuzer wrote:Is there any other "sport" that uses nicknames over real names? Well ofcourse there are some, but example when you are watching news at TV, they never call sportsmen/sportswomen by their nicknames. Or if you are watching football broadcast from TV, they rarely call players by their nickname. But in esports we are doing it all the time!


Other sports don't require you to log in with a username.

HuK, IdrA, and WhiteRa aren't "nicknames." They're Battle.net usernames. This is why they are used. This is what those players identify with while they play.

Obama-toss, Final Boss, and The Gracken are nicknames. And these are used only as much as other nicknames are used in other sports.
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
November 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#135
In Korea they use the players names I believe, isn't that also why they change their nicknames so often, because it has way less importance in the Korean Scene
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
November 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#136
It's really just a historical thing. Esports comes through online gaming that allowed for competition on such a large scale, and one of the defining features of the internet is annonimity. It might be good to use people's real names, but it will take some time to change as the plethora of lan events is a recent development. Also, I kind of like how having your real name known is sort of an indicator of achievement. Like, people learn of you by your ign, but once you get really accomplished they learn your real name as well.
popsilique
Profile Joined May 2011
United States71 Posts
November 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#137
I LOVE being able to choose my own name, and I love referring to people by theirs.

Plus I find them effective in defusing the emotional impact of arguments/insults when I read it off as being said by 'icefrog' as opposed to Mr. Theodore Kaczynski, or whoever . Keeps things more lighthearted imo.

Hope someday internet culture grows to a point where our handles are our MAIN names

check mine, i prefer it.
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
November 22 2011 05:55 GMT
#138
It's just cooler/more convenient to use nicknames. It's prevalent for most of "internet culture" too is it not? Can even see it in movies and such...I'd much rather use the name "Neo" than "Thomas" for the protagonist of The Matrix.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
November 22 2011 05:57 GMT
#139
It's just part of gamer culture imo. Korea has their way of doing it and we have ours. You hear the Korean commentators say the name "Chris Loranger" more than Tastosis during GSL, but I don't think using gamer tags devalues the Western scene in any way.
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
November 22 2011 06:00 GMT
#140
On November 22 2011 12:09 theBALLS wrote:

And good luck remembering all the Korean names.



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