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VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
November 22 2011 05:00 GMT
#101
Both!

Except for Princess, Terran, Major, CuteAngel or whatever his nickname is now. We should just call him him his real name, whatever that is.
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
November 22 2011 05:01 GMT
#102
I think they should use real names for the award ceremonies at least. Imagine if you could actually take giant cardboard checks to the bank and having to explain that "Naniwa" meant you.
Xenocryst
Profile Joined December 2010
United States521 Posts
November 22 2011 05:03 GMT
#103
using your real name shows an amount of respect and a desire for real communication. so i vote real names
Flash110
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2 Posts
November 22 2011 05:03 GMT
#104
Football... ever hear of PrimeTime? Most announcers just ended up calling him prime or primetime. That still do that now. But i agree, maybe real names might help it become more professional. Then again the use their nicks on the web, which would be really confusing for caster having to decide to call them by real names or nicks.

Ehh the topic is good. But nicks have always been a part of video games.
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
November 22 2011 05:04 GMT
#105
On November 22 2011 13:47 Jaiden wrote:
Real names are a really personal thing for me. All my friends use my first name, but usually i dont want any stranger referring me in that way. Thats just not polite to call someone unasked with their full or first name. Nicknames are a bridge because you can speak with someone without being to personal.

While Casting its different, because the players and caster are in the spotlight. Normally all interested viewers know the name of the important players and thats fine. But i think its just easier to refer someone in the heat of a battle with "Socke" instead of Giacomo Thüs or Pavel Kuznetsov (Brat_OK).

I don't see how referring to a certain player in a heat of battle would be in anyway be hard thing to do, when all the matches are 1v1.
Hell, They are calling every player their real name in ice hockey too and there are much more players in the field and it is much more fast paced than starcraft yet the commentators doesn't seem to have that much problems on pronouncing players names during matches.
C=('. ' Q)
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
November 22 2011 05:04 GMT
#106
opposing gamer culture hurts e-sports
Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
November 22 2011 05:06 GMT
#107
I actually think you feel a stronger connection to someone when you know their true name. While we probably know popular player's real names because they're popular, don't we feel an even stronger connection to them because we refer to them as Chis, Jonathon, or Greg?

I would actually prefer to use the players' real names, because it gives me a stronger connection to them. Then again, I don't think it's a huge deal either way.
Jaiden
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany60 Posts
November 22 2011 05:07 GMT
#108
On November 22 2011 13:52 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 13:47 Jaiden wrote:
Real names are a really personal thing for me. All my friends use my first name, but usually i dont want any stranger referring me in that way. Thats just not polite to call someone unasked with their full or first name. Nicknames are a bridge because you can speak with someone without being to personal.

While Casting its different, because the players and caster are in the spotlight. Normally all interested viewers know the name of the important players and thats fine. But i think its just easier to refer someone in the heat of a battle with "Socke" instead of Giacomo Thüs or Pavel Kuznetsov (Brat_OK).


Casters in sports (and in BW) do it all the time, I don't see why it would be a problem.


Like i said, its easier. Its not the caster, i mean the viewer. In BW was a (mostly) small community with hardcore fans, in SC2 its a lot more versatile. That means we have more first time viewers and casual viewers, who enjoy the game but dont spend much time in the community and read about the players. They could and maybe will be sometime full time fans but did you ever tried to explain a tournament where you have +100 players to someone totally new? Its really hard. A lot of new names, units, strategies. Most people under 30 understand the concept of a nickname, even older folks like my granddad has no problem with it.

It just makes it easier to understand.
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
November 22 2011 05:09 GMT
#109
nick names work in esports though, and the fact that i don't care to remember any of the korean names minus a few because their real names are said a lot.
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
November 22 2011 05:10 GMT
#110
I actually think using nicknames would help SC2 spread a bit more, especially considering how the Korean scene dominates. No casual sc2 fan in america is going to learn all of the names of the korean pro's... i mean consider how many people even know boxer's real name? Do you think everyone is going to learn the korean names of all the pro's?
Bullet
Profile Joined June 2010
United States280 Posts
November 22 2011 05:11 GMT
#111
nicknames are fine. It won't slow anything down. If it gets to the point where it becomes a big deal, change it. Right now it doesn't really matter what you call the player imo.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
November 22 2011 05:12 GMT
#112
Handles are much easier to go by. They are also more memorable.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:17:56
November 22 2011 05:12 GMT
#113
On November 22 2011 14:01 BrosephBrostar wrote:
I think they should use real names for the award ceremonies at least. Imagine if you could actually take giant cardboard checks to the bank and having to explain that "Naniwa" meant you.


I'd prefer it if banks recognized Johan as he walked inside with his check and said, "holy shit its Naniwa!" Then asked him for his autograph.

edit: People trying to change esports and push it into the mainstream only take away what we've all come to love in it. Rather than turn esports into what it isn't, we should embrace it for what it is. Is everyone in gaming going to now be required to have their full name as their ingame ID, too? Calling them by their name when you clearly see an ID next to a marine only discredit's the legitimacy of the ID.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 22 2011 05:12 GMT
#114
this is serious? Jaedong will be jaedong and flash will be flash. take that away and you lose so much of what these simple names have become to the fans.
Amalaxi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States180 Posts
November 22 2011 05:13 GMT
#115
I'm getting sick of seeing all these "THIS IS HURTING ESPORTS" threads.
But nicknames, easier to remember than real names, incase they are easy or being introduced by some casters, youll hear greg "idra" fields etc
justin.tv/amalaxinaoum
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:15:31
November 22 2011 05:13 GMT
#116
On November 22 2011 14:10 LXR wrote:
I actually think using nicknames would help SC2 spread a bit more, especially considering how the Korean scene dominates. No casual sc2 fan in america is going to learn all of the names of the korean pro's... i mean consider how many people even know boxer's real name? Do you think everyone is going to learn the korean names of all the pro's?


They don't learn them because they have no reason to learn them because they're always called by their nicknames during casts. When players are called by their real names in casts, then people will naturally learn their names by watching them play, same as you would in any sport. In fact, it's really not any different than how people come to learn SC2 player's IDs currently. You don't just look at a bracket for a tournament and instantly memorize every player, you learn their IDs by watching their games.

On November 22 2011 14:12 Golgotha wrote:
this is serious? Jaedong will be jaedong and flash will be flash. take that away and you lose so much of what these simple names have become to the fans.


Why are you using BW players as an example when they are already called by their real names all the time?
BW forever || Thall
chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
November 22 2011 05:17 GMT
#117
On November 22 2011 12:08 Fuzer wrote:
Is there any other "sport" that uses nicknames over real names? Well ofcourse there are some, but example when you are watching news at TV, they never call sportsmen/sportswomen by their nicknames. Or if you are watching football broadcast from TV, they rarely call players by their nickname. But in esports we are doing it all the time!

You've never watched sport in Australia have you?
"When things get weird, I'm in my element." - Liquid`TLO
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
November 22 2011 05:18 GMT
#118
On November 22 2011 12:12 SoKHo wrote:
Yeah, it's a little strange that foreigners go by their handle. In Korea, nobody calls Flash, Flash. They call him Lee Young Ho, or Kim Taek Young for Bisu.


Doesn't apply to sc2 tho, every Korean I've lived with/talked to addressed players by their handle, sometimes even best friends would say their sc2-nick rather than their real name. (for example in the pros house Young Jun Yoo or formerly MVPGalaxy was called Galaxy more often than Youngjun, same with Jung Hyun Yoo was called Bizzy more than his name)

My opinion is that the names add flare for sponsors, and real-names dull it, personally. When I've heard Nick-names in other sports it's sorta neat, but obviously due to the nature of the sports real-names are more important, as it was what they were built under.

Whatever you're built under is what you're addressed by, it has nothing to do with sports or whatever, look at Tom Dwan, don't recognize the name? How about Durrrrr the poker phenom? That's Tom Dwan. What about Viktor Blom? Don't recognize the name? Because it's Isildur1 the other internet poker phenom. Then ofcourse you have others like Phil Galfond who also rose to fame online but was generally addressed more as his real name as he was more public with it.

Just my opinion though and maybe I'm wrong about my analogy.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 22 2011 05:20 GMT
#119
I really think that during the game, the players should be referred to as their handles. The casters NEED a shortform anyways so they can call who's doing what for the audience, and I think that you can compare the handle of a player to team-names in sports.

During pre-game hype, they should be telling us their real names as well as their handles. But I see no reason to reduce the use of the handle or nickname, only to increase the exposure of the player's real names as well. I think it helps legitimize the scene a little bit when we can attach real names to the best players.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 22 2011 05:21 GMT
#120
I wonder how many times I've seen this debate on this site. It's gaming culture. It's what we do. As long as games give you a handle, rather than your actual name, it's what people will use because it's more easily identifiable and it's what you, the gamer, become known in the community as.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
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