EPTHowever during games i would prefer casters just keeping it by the nicknames of players. It'll cause less confusion. Casters could talk about Jos or Manuel but actual names ingame show Ret vs Grubby....... who's who...
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
However during games i would prefer casters just keeping it by the nicknames of players. It'll cause less confusion. Casters could talk about Jos or Manuel but actual names ingame show Ret vs Grubby....... who's who... | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
iDra is called a lot by his real name (in reports or news thread). Most of the time not in TL but it happens. I find it really odd (And a lot of player who are not top stars are only known by their nicknames for the casual gamer/watcher). And what about actors ? Wrestlers ? Singers ? Dancers ? Composers ? A lot of them use alliases | ||
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
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TeH_CaRnAg3
United States239 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On November 23 2011 00:52 Roggay wrote: It's a gamer tradition to have nicknames and be called by them, and there is nothing wrong with it. That's actually a very good thing, because its much easier to remember a lot of nicknames than a lot of real names. This argument of "if we want sc2 to go mainstream, we need to get rid of nicknames" is stupid to begin with. We absolutely don't need to get rid of a really important tradition just for the sake of "going mainstream", it will not help in the slightest. Nicknames are considered childish in the real world. It's not a really important tradition, it's merely something people on the internet choose to hide behind because they're afraid to use their real identity. I'm not pro everything facebook, but that is something they did very well: by forcing people to use their real names (if they want to be taken seriously) they're also forcing them to behave like they would in real life, instead of like made-up persona. If you want people to look upon the starcraft scene as a mature, professional competitive gaming scene, in a culture where the words "mature" and "gaming" are considered contraditions, you have to behave as mature, professional people, even if it means sacrificing some "traditions." | ||
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Mehukannu
Finland421 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:14 PiratosTheGreat wrote: I don't see how using their real names in big tournaments changes anything. Sponsors are looking to get their brand out to the people who like the player. If the fans know Chris Loranger as HuK it makes far more sense sponsoring him as HuK than Chris Loranger - honestly, I don't know the real names behind more or less all the people I see play. It is much better for the sponsors if they get their merchandise known for more people than just HuK's fans and I don't think there is going to be much difference for fans if they sponsor HuK or Chris Loranger, because they should know his real name. But say if the sponsor tries to advertise with HuK for people who don't know about esports or starcraft at all. Let's say they try to sell some gamer stuff like new computer mouses for example. How are you going to tell people that this random dude we call HuK is some big shot at something they have never heard of and much less take it seriously. More than that who the heck is HuK? Some kind of advanced AI? Perhaps it is short for some sort of organization? Then let's say that if the sponsor doesn't have any picture of HuK in their advertisement for whatever, which create a problem if someone decide to act HuK for some bizarre. Now that guy could hurt HuK's pro gaming career a lot by doing some stupid things. So there are some reasons for you, obviously the last one most likely won't happen, but you never know, it just might happen when we least expect it. EDIT: Should probably add that battle.net ID and a earned nickname (Boxer earning the nickname The Emperor/Emperor of Terran) will cause some new people to get confused, because it is hard to tell if they are referring to a other player or did he just have another more known battle.net ID in the past. Then there is the problem if some pro gamer decides to change his battle.net ID to something totally different would make most of us confused for some time. Best example here is obviously MajoR or was it cuteangle or something now. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:37 maartendq wrote: Nicknames are considered childish in the real world. It's not a really important tradition, it's merely something people on the internet choose to hide behind because they're afraid to use their real identity. I'm not pro everything facebook, but that is something they did very well: by forcing people to use their real names (if they want to be taken seriously) they're also forcing them to behave like they would in real life, instead of like made-up persona. If you want people to look upon the starcraft scene as a mature, professional competitive gaming scene, in a culture where the words "mature" and "gaming" are considered contraditions, you have to behave as mature, professional people, even if it means sacrificing some "traditions." This is wrong on so many levels. People watch e-sports to be entertained, not to be reminded of the "real world" they work in every day. Progamers need to be professional, yes, but they also need to be marketable. Hell, international mega corporations choose catchy "nicknames" for themselves, I don't see how gamers lose credibility by doing the same. | ||
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TheRooster
Sweden719 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:48 TheRooster wrote: What would poor juan (Terran,Major, Princess, CuteAngel, Windy, Memory, Oprah, Brittney, Kitty) do if he couldnt change nickname every other day T.T. I think we should call him just juan to punish him for changing names almost as often as he changes teams. | ||
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SupItsG
United States59 Posts
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Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:48 TheRooster wrote: What would poor juan (Terran,Major, Princess, CuteAngel, Windy, Memory, Oprah, Brittney, Kitty) do if he couldnt change nickname every other day T.T. He would change his real life name every week obviously  Its too late to change nicknames to names, too many people to learn from scrach and nicknames are part of e-sports, you shouldnt copy mainstream to be mainstream, being different is good and not a bad thing. Someone said "nicknames are childish in real life", if someone who thinks having nicknames in GAMES is childish do you really think they will watch sc2 in first place? | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Of course, it does have to be reasonable. I am looking at you x6cuteangel/sixjaxMajor/RootKitty/RootPrincess.... | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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YaShock
Hungary119 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:14 Phyrigian wrote: kim taek yong, lee young ho, lee jae dong, sung byung gu, lim yo hwan. this is just off the top of my head and i didnt try, these are all from bw/boxer. honestly, i do agree real names would make it more professional and i do think that'd cut the barrier between "esports" and "competitve gaming". i do think we should use real names, thats what they use for BW in korea and look how it turned out. lol, BW isn't e-sport because of real names :O | ||
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Weedk
United States507 Posts
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Mehukannu
Finland421 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:46 Maenander wrote: This is wrong on so many levels. People watch e-sports to be entertained, not to be reminded of the "real world" they work in every day. Progamers need to be professional, yes, but they also need to be marketable. Hell, international mega corporations choose catchy "nicknames" for themselves, I don't see how gamers lose credibility by doing the same. Company name =/= gamers name. Those two doesn't even have anything in common. | ||
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
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ilovelings
Argentina776 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8307 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:03 lindn wrote: If the new guy doesn't know who huk is, what makes you believe he does know who chris loranger is? it's far easier to know players by their nickname rather than their full name, can you name MVP, Nestea or MC? probably not but you sure as hell know their nickname from the games you've seen them play. remembering names is far more difficult than remembering nicknames. Especially when there are people with the same or extremely similar names but never people with the same nickname and only possibly related nicknames. Well... Most people know MC stands for Min Chul (his name) but otherwise that's a good point. Same with DRG and SC. In fact, maybe initials are the perfect middle ground... just a thought. Personally I love screen names. | ||
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