EPTNicknames? Why? - Page 15
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
On November 22 2011 22:45 Tofugrinder wrote: for "us" (people involved in esports in any form) it's normal. For others it is really strange and I personally heard about 10 times up until now "why is this commentator called tasteless?". It's not normal to "them" and it makes esports weird for them Then it's up to you to educate them about the culture of eSports. It's not like a nickname is a concept that is drastically difficult to understand in any context. They've probably encountered it before in their school or work place. If they're genuinely going to be interested in eSports, something like a nickname in place of a real name is not going to be that much of barrier to learning. On the other hand, if you're just gonna open a stream / vod and let them watch and go "so how was it?" of course it's going to be a culture shock for them. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On November 22 2011 20:43 Pandemona wrote: Yes excatly, there is MANY cases of this in football in the premiership, take 2 high profile players who play for Manchester United and Manchester City. Javier Hernandez has Chicarito on the back of his shirt and is what he is referred to as, and Sergio Aguero has "Kun Aguero" on the back of his top... I've never heard a UK commentator call Hernandez chicarito and Aguero is always just called Aguero | ||
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Celadan
Norway471 Posts
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Zeetee
United States153 Posts
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On November 22 2011 23:13 Celadan wrote: Should we by that logic stop playing Starcraft at events because it might sound stupid to other people? No by that logic I should not want pros to use handles because I don't like them. I never mentioned other people. | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
Nobody will use their real name as their battle.net account name for privacy and other reasons. This means that anybody who becomes a good player will first be known by their ID. I'm all for having both the ID and the real name shown in big tournaments and it depends on the occasion which should be used. Would any English-speaking caster want to cast a match between Wieczoerk and Schenkhuizen? Then again, some players (mostly Koreans) come up with the worst IDs possible. Shin Sang Ho had it when he was SangHo, then lost it with BabyByeBye and Killer. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Tyree
1508 Posts
However that had nothing to do with pro gaming at the time, for example in the fighting game community many of the biggest stars are known by their actual names. Whereas in the FPS games its very uncommon to be known for your real name, i guess we in SC2 are sorta in the middle, but more towards nicknames than realnames. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On November 22 2011 23:02 Egyptian_Head wrote: I don't know why people want to change to real names to be like main stream sports, I just want to get rid of these handles because they are stupid. I mean really, every time I hear Idra or Tasteless or Day[9] or whatever I have a hard time taking any of it seriously. Fan made nicknames are cool, If Haypro had Banjo on his liquid shirt that would be awesome, but Haypro? No that has no meaning or story behind it which justifies it, just use your real name. (Forgive me if there is some reason behind haypro, just an example). His name is actually Hayder, and he worked to become a professional gamer ----> Haypro. That wasn't really the best example to support your point. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
(Not saying they should drop nicknames- just that they should display both.) | ||
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kenkou
United States235 Posts
We get to know players by their aliases first, real name second in ESPORTS. We all come from an online community, where aliases are used. This is what people start to know them by, and I don't think there should be a magical line of when you're pro enough to be named by your real name. Sure, include it in the player introduction, that I can agree with. But replacing some up and coming players names with their real name seems wa~y to strange for me. I don't even know or seen the guy, who is he on the ladder? Yes, in a physical sports, they'll call people by their real name. Heck, in a game like chess they'll do so. But remember, we are ESPORTS, most players get well known online first, offline second. I would say Korea BW was just a fluke on how it happened, and it shouldn't have to be the standard. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
I honestly think that if we tried to start using real names instead of id's, Korean players would lose a lot of the exposure and popularity that they currently have in the foreign scene. For one example, I know who Alicia is because I can associate his nick with his gstl performances and other games of his I've seen. However, if we only knew him by his real name, I would never remember him individually. I can remember the real names of a lot of Western players since I've been learning Western names all my life, but Korean names are really hard; I only know Boxer's because I watched a bit of the recent documentary someone posted a few months ago on TL. Commentators using real names and players using their nicks might be one good compromise. Another might be for players to choose their nicks so as to build something memorable starting from their real name, like Liquid'Tyler (much more memorable than just "Tyler") or Jaedong. For example, if MC wanted people to use his real name, he could go by oGs.Minchul, or Ret could be Liquid'Jos. But I don't think that straight up using real names is a viable option. Edit: I don't watch MMA, but going by what other people on TL have said, its rise is one of the most optimistic parallels to esports, in that it was a small niche activity that has become a big sport. They use both real names and nicknames/IDs. No reason we couldn't do that. In-game screens could just use the nicknames, and everywhere else we could write both of those. | ||
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Slaytilost
Netherlands968 Posts
On November 22 2011 21:32 mikiao wrote: In the top corner we have the US Zerg Greg. And in the bottom 7 o'clock position we have the European Zerg Greg. Now Greg is sending his overlord to scout Greg. Greg sent his overlord to the wrong corner, this means that Greg is going to get scouting information first and will be able to see that Greg is going pool first. Would it happen often? Probably not. Would it be annoying when it happens? I think so. Besides...most people I know that I play online with I call by their handle even if I know their actual names. Hell, people I knew in person before I knew they played, I call by their handle. In the top left of the map we have KiLLeR, in the bottom right we have Killer!. Sorry, your point is irrelephant. | ||
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whsper
Canada48 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
For us normal guys, i completely think nicknames are useful. Sure amateur soccer players don´t use nicknames, but they are not well open to public via a platform like this. Nicknames protect private sphere on internet activities. Plus nicknames are more individual. There are many many guys in germany that have my fore- and surname, as it´s very common, but im the only one using this nick. | ||
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clownzim
Brazil267 Posts
nicknames are rooted way deep on gaming culture. since the begin of the times all gamer's like to be called by their alias. and for REAL what difference it makes on you enjoy a game or a cast? a name is just a name been your real name or an alias that some1 choose to use. every time they called Karl Malone "Mailman" you enjoyed less the cast ? do u EVER refer to Ronaldo Assis as ronaldinho gaucho?or Marshall Mathers as "eminem" ? and there so many more examples on real life where people CHOOSE to be called by their alias. FOR REAL THIS THREAD DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On November 22 2011 22:54 r3z3nd3 wrote: I am of opinion that using nicknames is just a way to keep holding to thwe image of "just a game". All sports in the world call their players by their name. Because there aren't many sports which begin by creating an online account to practice under a specific handle. Other sports require you to just go fucking play somewhere with someone, thus nobody would call themselves or each other by nicknames (unless they are earned/jokes etc.) | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On November 23 2011 00:25 whsper wrote: Real issue: Korean names are much more likely to be unique. Western culture has a much smaller range of names, there can be a million Gregs out there but there likely won't be a million of the same 3 character asian name. Not to mention people use almost any character for the 3 character combinations... whereas Western culture rarely uses arbitrary words for names. This is totally wrong. Every other Korean is Lee, Jung, Won or Kim. TOP and Tassadar ar both Kim Jung Hoon. anypro, JHL and RenieHouR are all Lee Jung Hwan. I remember Code A qualifiers where just korean names were posted and it couldn't be told who is who. That wouldn't happen in western tournaments. | ||
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