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backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
November 09 2011 06:17 GMT
#281
On November 09 2011 15:16 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 15:13 backtoback wrote:
People have to wonder if IGN will EVER EVER sponsor small tournaments anymore outside of North America..

I think they will, IGN and the people at IPL are AMAZING human beings. The week I spent with them in Atlantic City was nothing short of one of the best weeks of my life.


IPL is not a small tournament and it is in the states.... direct support from them
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
November 09 2011 06:18 GMT
#282
Interesting. We shall see if Gus is actually going to pay the hotel fee AND the 12k that Amanda needs.
Lifes too short to be small.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 09 2011 06:21 GMT
#283
On November 09 2011 15:17 backtoback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 15:16 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 09 2011 15:13 backtoback wrote:
People have to wonder if IGN will EVER EVER sponsor small tournaments anymore outside of North America..

I think they will, IGN and the people at IPL are AMAZING human beings. The week I spent with them in Atlantic City was nothing short of one of the best weeks of my life.


IPL is not a small tournament and it is in the states.... direct support from them

The people at IPL are directly responsible for the support.

I'm not saying "Yes they will because they'll support IPL"
The small group of people at IPL are VERY passionate about ESPORTS and reaching as much of the globe as they possibly can. I think it should go a long way to show how supportive IPL has been by looking not only at their involvement with the PPSL deal, but with the qualifiers for i44 in the UK, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more IPL involvement across the globe.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
zuroy
Profile Joined December 2010
9 Posts
November 09 2011 06:22 GMT
#284
On November 09 2011 15:18 Sickkiee wrote:
Interesting. We shall see if Gus is actually going to pay the hotel fee AND the 12k that Amanda needs.

Yeah... no.
he didnt even pay for that plane ticket which probably costs less than 10% of 12k
Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
November 09 2011 06:23 GMT
#285
Well that certainly was an empty, self-serving non-explanation that didn't address anyone's concerns. Recommend lifetime ban from ESPORTS for this douchelord.
ak)hero(b2k
Profile Joined August 2003
Australia9 Posts
November 09 2011 06:23 GMT
#286
This makes me sad to be coming from the SEA region. Seriously sad.
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 09 2011 06:23 GMT
#287
Just saw an interview with David Ting, head of the IPL. He said that his staff was telling him that supporting PPSL was a bad idea. David said that they should just trust PPSL and Team AZK. He said now that things have turned out the way they did, he won't sponsor someone without proof that they are capable.
There is no spoon
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 09 2011 06:27 GMT
#288
On November 09 2011 15:17 backtoback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 15:16 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 09 2011 15:13 backtoback wrote:
People have to wonder if IGN will EVER EVER sponsor small tournaments anymore outside of North America..

I think they will, IGN and the people at IPL are AMAZING human beings. The week I spent with them in Atlantic City was nothing short of one of the best weeks of my life.


IPL is not a small tournament and it is in the states.... direct support from them

Based on what David Ting said on vVv's interview (which many might not have watched), that seems to be IPL's intended strategy for the growth of esports. They'll probably be a lot more careful in picking partners though.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 09 2011 06:27 GMT
#289
I want to know if MarineKing will still get a slot at IPL 4 for winning this event.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 09 2011 06:27 GMT
#290
This whole scenario... is REALLY hurting e-sports.

Jeez.
I love crazymoving
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
November 09 2011 06:28 GMT
#291
Whatever comes out of this, at least we know that Gus won't be able to get sponsor money for events anymore.
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 09 2011 06:29 GMT
#292
lol... what a fucking joke

So you had issues with getting YYJ to Australia so instead you flew your own australian member there. Right.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Munsy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States67 Posts
November 09 2011 06:29 GMT
#293
What really bothers me about this thread is that he's trying to take responsibility without actually taking responsibility.

There is no "we" in this, Gus. There is only you. Everyone else was looking up to you to lead this event, and you failed fucking miserably. And even now, when you had a chance to just flat out say "I was the one to fuck up," you can't even grow a fucking pair and do that. You have to hide behind the PPSL so that it doesn't look like it's entirely your mess. That's how immature you truly are. Everyone knows it's your fault, everyone is pointing the finger directly at you, and yet your whole apology says "sorry that we fucked up."

Your parents should be ashamed. They raised one hell of a rotten egg.
‎"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love." - Sean 'Day[9]' Plott
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 09 2011 06:29 GMT
#294
On November 09 2011 15:27 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I want to know if MarineKing will still get a slot at IPL 4 for winning this event.

He and Moon will probably get the slots. IPL are still supporting the event (indirectly) through the funds that they have already given and also the fact that they will be getting the replays from PPSL to cast on their stream.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 06:31:32
November 09 2011 06:31 GMT
#295
omg this is your "apology"? you're so full of fail, i hope i will never have to hear about you again.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 09 2011 06:33 GMT
#296
On November 09 2011 15:27 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I want to know if MarineKing will still get a slot at IPL 4 for winning this event.


As replied from Alex.IGN himself, yes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283544&currentpage=11#208
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
NeonPeon
Profile Joined February 2011
93 Posts
November 09 2011 06:33 GMT
#297
I'm not sure how much of this was a scam in the sense that the intent was to swindle money in some deliberate way. I do think that you had someone who wasn't vetted, who had a lot of authority that they were in no way prepared to deal with, who has probably spent most of their life, through a mixture of bs and bluster, trying to appear more than they are, and never learning how to do things the proper way. This apology is defined primarily by what it doesn't address or say.

The proper response would require a lot more contrition, but at a bare minimum it would require him stopping down from any position of authority and being absolutely transparent.

Everyone has dealt with a guy like this before.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 09 2011 06:34 GMT
#298
On November 09 2011 15:29 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 15:27 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I want to know if MarineKing will still get a slot at IPL 4 for winning this event.

He and Moon will probably get the slots. IPL are still supporting the event (indirectly) through the funds that they have already given and also the fact that they will be getting the replays from PPSL to cast on their stream.

if anything IGN will give seeds to Moon and MarineKing for having to endure such a shittily run tournament with dodgy management
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 06:43:54
November 09 2011 06:34 GMT
#299
On November 09 2011 15:29 ReaperX wrote:
lol... what a fucking joke

So you had issues with getting YYJ to Australia so instead you flew your own australian member there. Right.


That's only the half of it.

Dox's Blog:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=283600


TargA declined his invitation to the Pacific Qualifiers due to university exams.
YoonYJ is next in line for the seat.
Instead of approaching YoonYJ, Gus offered mOOnGLaDe a qualifying spot and paid flights/accommodation, on the condition that he is required to join Team AZK. (GLaDe declined)
If your mind hasn't started connecting the dots yet, just consider their alleged acquisition of viOlet and now NEXSickness. Also ex-WeMadeFOX players Moon and Soccer being tagged as AZK players. Yeah.


http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=283600#8

ZenDeX Philippines. November 08 2011 10:11. Posts 2722 PM Profile Blog Quote #
On November 08 2011 09:59 Dox wrote:
Instead of approaching YoonYJ, Gus speaks directly to mOOnGLaDe - attempting to bribe him with a qualifying spot and paid flights/accommodation. If mOOnGLaDe accepts, he is required to represent Team AZK at the event, and join the team for 3 months. (GLaDe declined)

He tried to pull the same shit on my players. Zzzzzz



Oh and did i forget to mention he also Screwed over 4 players from Team Cube in the Phillipines who also qualified for the Tournament and were supposed to have flights to get there but Guess what.

Gus pilfered the money from the Flights and used it to fly his own Players to the Tournament

TL;DR Gus Bribed Players to take tournament Spots that other players had already Qualified and were rightfully supposed to be granted a plane ticket to the event.

Those Plane Tickets Guess what; Gus never ended up Getting around to that because he was too busy dodging the constant concerns that YJY had voice about whether Gus was going to send him to the Tournament or Not

Meanwhile Gus was too busy Bribing MoonGlade with a Spot on Team AZK.. To Take YJY's Spot in the Tournament.....

oh yeah and here's the Chat of YJY voicing His Concerns about Gus's Little Con-Artist Scam

YJY :"I've been hearing shit from other people inside his team and out"
YJY :"That he never wanted(me) to fly in the first place"
YJY :"but when i spoke to him he gave me his word"
YJY :"yeah but im going to be very smart about this"
YJY :"i want the sponsors to see bad publicity"

Gus AKA(WitchDoc) :"GL with that"

I'm just gonna have to say that i'm guessing those Plane Tickets he never ended up paying for actually were spent on Sending his own AZK Teammates to the Event....

Because Gus's only Excuse for not Sending the Players that were promised flights is..... sadly a Pathetic Excuse

Gus's Excuse....

YoJun was considered as the replacement to attend the event alongside David "arcMSIRossi" Rossi. However, there were a few complications associated with funding (not IPL's fault), and subsequently, I was unable to send him to the event. For that, we deeply apologize and wish YoJun the best in his future endeavors. He will be compensated for flights and accommodations in the future;


Oh yeah he forgot to mention bribing MoonGlade to take JYJ's Spot because he's a Fucking Lying Pos
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Dracover
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia177 Posts
November 09 2011 06:35 GMT
#300
On November 09 2011 14:37 YoonYJ wrote:
I have spoken to Gus about the matter and I am glad to say that he has apologised for his actions. He has given me my word that I will be compensated at a sum of $1600AU, which was the estimated cost of the flight by next year February 15th. The reason for this is because he will be dealing with all the other financial issues at hand which is currently happening in the Philippines as you guys probably have heard of share my disappointment.

http://i.imgur.com/bueay.png?4912


Is he expecting a huge present on the 14th?
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