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17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
November 19 2011 04:18 GMT
#841
It wasn't enough ram but rather driver conflicts that slowed down the computers. For clarity only.

Initial assumption was ram problem but once technicians looked into it, it was actually driver conflict that was bogging the system down. As I remember both from the interview and some posts by those persons who were assisting in the PPSL, those on stage had a more proper setup compared to the other 30 units not on stage. But the specs were never below the requirements of sc2, just that 2gb of ram on most.

Regarding the cables, actual specs were never relayed and TGR never mentioned a cable problem but a bandwidth problem from day 1. So I still think the cable issue is an excuse but to be honest also, older types of LAN cables can still be used here like some people mentioned. It would be the organizers fault for using such to "save" on costs while sacrificing integrity of the whole event for paltry savings.

Just my two cents. So we don't know on part of the cables as to what were the specifics etc. =)

Maybe when Gus compiles all the "relevant paperwork" he'll come out with an official statement on these things, but I highly doubt it as he stated it was an arrangement between "friends" especially with regards to the ISP.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 19 2011 04:28 GMT
#842
On November 19 2011 12:13 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:32 XRaDiiX wrote:
Its was in the Phillipines of all places probably a good chance they were using Cat-3 Cables and Older Tech.

For darn sac apparently they didn't have the sufficient ram during the Tournament. Remember that.?



Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables.


No economist will count the Philippines as an industrialized country lol.

It has a GDP per capita of freakin 2k usd.


Every economist will understand that purchasing power parity is far more informative than GDP per capita.

Are the Philippines as wealthy as America? No, few countries are.

Is it a capable and healthy economy more than capable of procuring the equipment for a Starcraft 2 tournament? Absolutely.


I think that you need to reevaluate what an industrialized country is. Only a few dozen countries are defined by economists to be industrialized economies, and the Phillipines is most certainly not one of them. Far from it, actually.

Oh snap there . . . . PPP is only useful for comparisons that don't involve items traded at the international level such as . . . haircuts or shoe repair. I'm pretty sure that American and Fillipino computer equipment probably come from the same factories and computer equipment isn't actually specifically targeted by tariffs, so it's actually quite safe to assume that a country with a PPP per capita (there, happy?) of a *few thousand dollars* per year probably has lower quality computer equipment on average.
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Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 04:33:07
November 19 2011 04:32 GMT
#843
On November 19 2011 13:28 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 12:13 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:32 XRaDiiX wrote:
Its was in the Phillipines of all places probably a good chance they were using Cat-3 Cables and Older Tech.

For darn sac apparently they didn't have the sufficient ram during the Tournament. Remember that.?



Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables.


No economist will count the Philippines as an industrialized country lol.

It has a GDP per capita of freakin 2k usd.


Every economist will understand that purchasing power parity is far more informative than GDP per capita.

Are the Philippines as wealthy as America? No, few countries are.

Is it a capable and healthy economy more than capable of procuring the equipment for a Starcraft 2 tournament? Absolutely.


I think that you need to reevaluate what an industrialized country is. Only a few dozen countries are defined by economists to be industrialized economies, and the Phillipines is most certainly not one of them. Far from it, actually.

Oh snap there . . . . PPP is only useful for comparisons that don't involve items traded at the international level such as . . . haircuts or shoe repair. I'm pretty sure that American and Fillipino computer equipment probably come from the same factories and computer equipment isn't actually specifically targeted by tariffs, so it's actually quite safe to assume that a country with a PPP per capita (there, happy?) of a *few thousand dollars* per year probably has lower quality computer equipment on average.


They are classified as "newly industrialized" and one of their primary exports is electronics. Agriculture is still a big part of their economy, but about 50% of their GDP is in the service sector..
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kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
November 19 2011 04:58 GMT
#844
Jesus, I just watched the interview finally.

I can not believe how many times "um" was said.
Zraf
Profile Joined August 2010
54 Posts
November 19 2011 06:13 GMT
#845
On November 19 2011 13:32 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 13:28 chenchen wrote:
On November 19 2011 12:13 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:32 XRaDiiX wrote:
Its was in the Phillipines of all places probably a good chance they were using Cat-3 Cables and Older Tech.

For darn sac apparently they didn't have the sufficient ram during the Tournament. Remember that.?



Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables.


No economist will count the Philippines as an industrialized country lol.

It has a GDP per capita of freakin 2k usd.


Every economist will understand that purchasing power parity is far more informative than GDP per capita.

Are the Philippines as wealthy as America? No, few countries are.

Is it a capable and healthy economy more than capable of procuring the equipment for a Starcraft 2 tournament? Absolutely.


I think that you need to reevaluate what an industrialized country is. Only a few dozen countries are defined by economists to be industrialized economies, and the Phillipines is most certainly not one of them. Far from it, actually.

Oh snap there . . . . PPP is only useful for comparisons that don't involve items traded at the international level such as . . . haircuts or shoe repair. I'm pretty sure that American and Fillipino computer equipment probably come from the same factories and computer equipment isn't actually specifically targeted by tariffs, so it's actually quite safe to assume that a country with a PPP per capita (there, happy?) of a *few thousand dollars* per year probably has lower quality computer equipment on average.


They are classified as "newly industrialized" and one of their primary exports is electronics. Agriculture is still a big part of their economy, but about 50% of their GDP is in the service sector..


Did you get that information from a book or report? The electronics manufacturing industry in the country is tiny and close to insignificant at best.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 19 2011 08:07 GMT
#846
On November 19 2011 15:13 Zraf wrote:

Did you get that information from a book or report? The electronics manufacturing industry in the country is tiny and close to insignificant at best.


Last I read, semiconductor and electronics exports for the country were expected to reach almost $30B this year with a few billion dollars in investments expected. Hardly insignificant, though perhaps not significant. Somewhere in between I s'pose.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12497 Posts
November 19 2011 08:24 GMT
#847
On November 19 2011 13:28 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 12:13 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:32 XRaDiiX wrote:
Its was in the Phillipines of all places probably a good chance they were using Cat-3 Cables and Older Tech.

For darn sac apparently they didn't have the sufficient ram during the Tournament. Remember that.?



Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables.


No economist will count the Philippines as an industrialized country lol.

It has a GDP per capita of freakin 2k usd.


Every economist will understand that purchasing power parity is far more informative than GDP per capita.

Are the Philippines as wealthy as America? No, few countries are.

Is it a capable and healthy economy more than capable of procuring the equipment for a Starcraft 2 tournament? Absolutely.


I think that you need to reevaluate what an industrialized country is. Only a few dozen countries are defined by economists to be industrialized economies, and the Phillipines is most certainly not one of them. Far from it, actually.

Oh snap there . . . . PPP is only useful for comparisons that don't involve items traded at the international level such as . . . haircuts or shoe repair. I'm pretty sure that American and Fillipino computer equipment probably come from the same factories and computer equipment isn't actually specifically targeted by tariffs, so it's actually quite safe to assume that a country with a PPP per capita (there, happy?) of a *few thousand dollars* per year probably has lower quality computer equipment on average.

yup, PPP isn't all that useful. GNP is probably the one he was looking for
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
November 19 2011 08:50 GMT
#848
Hey guys, so where's the interview with gus? I've gone back a few pages, but couldn't find any links to them =[
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
November 19 2011 09:01 GMT
#849
On November 19 2011 17:50 me_viet wrote:
Hey guys, so where's the interview with gus? I've gone back a few pages, but couldn't find any links to them =[


It's either this one

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=256973

or


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286190

Find the quote from Zvek. The youtube link would be there. =)
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