EPTThe apology was pretty bad and we already know it is your fault.
Oh and who helped you write the post because in your interview it was like UM UM and UM yes i try um UM um um um um um um um um um um.......
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AntiSleep
Canada91 Posts
The apology was pretty bad and we already know it is your fault. Oh and who helped you write the post because in your interview it was like UM UM and UM yes i try um UM um um um um um um um um um um....... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
These are apologies, that's fantastic, but you have given zero back. IGN's charity event filled the hole you left. The people you screwed are still screwed. Its going to be hard to explain your radio silence for so long. It'll take a lot to make me think that you are out for anything other than your own gain. Previous actions tell me this apology is to win community support and doesn't truly come from heartfelt apologies. Just yesterday your interview called things technicalities when its not. Maybe you are truly sorry, at which point I am sorry. But until then, no. | ||
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CounterOrder
Canada457 Posts
On November 18 2011 03:54 XRaDiiX wrote: You might wanna read this.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=256973¤tpage=5#85 NO GG! You fucking failures. | ||
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Daniel C
Hong Kong1606 Posts
On November 18 2011 12:42 Carbonthief wrote: I like (actually disliked) how when asked a simple yes or no question, he completely ignored it, refused to answer it, and started rambling off excuses. Question: Did you have a detailed financial plan going into this? Answer: We ran out of money. Ok, but did you have a plan or not motherfucker? We KNOW the money ran out, we want to know why and how! Did you just haphazardly seek sponsor money and hope that it would cover everything? Or did you actually have a planned delegation of funds, and things occurred that disallowed you to follow this plan? The answer of course is, NO, he didn't have a detailed financial plan going into this. Zero math was done ahead of time to see if the event could actually be paid for. But he'll refuse to admit it, and instead continue to rattle off the same old tired line of "we ran out of money" without ever explaining why they ran out of money. Plan or no plan, who gives? It's just a "technicality". | ||
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Werk
United States294 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
Lordadon Wait wait, I don't get it, how is gus missing (aka nowhere to be found to bail amanda out) and at the same time available for an intrrview? O.o YJY just letting you guys know: Gus and amanda have been in contact; not everyday, but they are trying to work things out (with difficulty). Jail is no longer an issue. Finances between amanda and gus are not a priority anymore. People are waiting to be paid (I won't name these people, but they are not the players). I know a lot of things right now (from friends and anons), so let me know if you have questions. I'll answer the things that I think should be answered. Dox I spoke to Amanda during Gus' interview to check if he actually had been in touch with her, this is what she said: Quote: Okay so basically on the 11th we spoke about the IGN waiver, then he didn't contact me for a few days. Then the 14th came and I asked him (Gus) about the waiver again as i didnt get a copy from the email. Then the 15th came and I gave some sentences about the fund raiser thing... I accidentally pressed his number on my phone, so I texted him "sorry, accident." He replied after that "did you get more than what you needed already?" I said "i dont know yet as IGN is still asleep" (Just for sake of clarity) Wasn't the reason why IPL had a funraiser was that Gus went AWOL and Amanda needs the money immediately? Right now the PPSL has around $23,000 in unpaid debt. $7,000 of that will be paid by us, but it seems like Gus, the organizer of the PPSL, is nowhere to be found and is not owning up to the remaining debt. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285511 | ||
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Buruguduy
Philippines238 Posts
There are also other outstanding dues that shoudl've been paid by Gus but shouldered by staff. Amanda had the biggest debt. A debt that was so big and could halt the travel agency business that she owed (Gus owed). | ||
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Jaxtyk
United States600 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mfg71/stay_classy_random_azk_person/ | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 18 2011 15:18 Primadog wrote: + Show Spoiler + The following came from sc2sea http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2761&page=2 Lordadon Wait wait, I don't get it, how is gus missing (aka nowhere to be found to bail amanda out) and at the same time available for an intrrview? O.o YJY just letting you guys know: Gus and amanda have been in contact; not everyday, but they are trying to work things out (with difficulty). Jail is no longer an issue. Finances between amanda and gus are not a priority anymore. People are waiting to be paid (I won't name these people, but they are not the players). I know a lot of things right now (from friends and anons), so let me know if you have questions. I'll answer the things that I think should be answered. Dox I spoke to Amanda during Gus' interview to check if he actually had been in touch with her, this is what she said: Quote: Okay so basically on the 11th we spoke about the IGN waiver, then he didn't contact me for a few days. Then the 14th came and I asked him (Gus) about the waiver again as i didnt get a copy from the email. Then the 15th came and I gave some sentences about the fund raiser thing... I accidentally pressed his number on my phone, so I texted him "sorry, accident." He replied after that "did you get more than what you needed already?" I said "i dont know yet as IGN is still asleep" (Just for sake of clarity) Wasn't the reason why IPL had a funraiser was that Gus went AWOL and Amanda needs the money immediately? Right now the PPSL has around $23,000 in unpaid debt. $7,000 of that will be paid by us, but it seems like Gus, the organizer of the PPSL, is nowhere to be found and is not owning up to the remaining debt. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285511 Hrm this part seems rather odd to me did Gus make off with 1000's of Dollars while the community had to pay for his own Tournaments Expenses? Read the Bolded part again Okay so basically on the 11th we spoke about the IGN waiver, then he didn't contact me for a few days. Then the 14th came and I asked him (Gus) about the waiver again as i didnt get a copy from the email. Then the 15th came and I gave some sentences about the fund raiser thing... I accidentally pressed his number on my phone, so I texted him "sorry, accident." He replied after that "did you get more than what you needed already?" I said "i dont know yet as IGN is still asleep" (Just for sake of clarity) I have a feeling Gus intended to make a lot of money with this tournament and his mis-management or pocketing of Sponsoring money led to him not wanting to provide the funds to 'own' up to the tournament Expenses. | ||
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Shel
United States104 Posts
On November 18 2011 07:14 TheToast wrote: This is completely and utterly incorrect. Please read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100BASE-TX#100BASE-TX Also note that Cat 5e cable uses 24 gauge copper wire that typically, to quote wikipedia, "can be bent at any radius exceeding approximately four times the diameter of the cables". It's not easy to break. If they had Cat5 cables running at lengths greater than 100 feet then they may have run into trouble, but otherwise this had nothing to do with it. And you are referring to the difference between stranded and solid wiring within the cat 5 cables. Solid ones can be used everywhere if need be, I've never heard of anyone breaking the wires inside. I wasn't even talking about cat 5. And I think the wires I used were 10baseT. This was about 10 or 11 years ago. I figured that since the infrastructure in the Philipines is so crappy that maybe they were using older cables. They weren't moving at speeds that needed more then 10baseT anyways. | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
On November 18 2011 15:28 Jaxtyk wrote: After seeing this Reddit thread, I'm not sure as to what I should believe in. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mfg71/stay_classy_random_azk_person/ Well, here's what I reckon you should believe based off of this. This person has nothing to do with AZK's management or decisions and his behavior means nothing concerning this event or any of the fallout associated with it. But he is a huge dickhole, universally despised by the entire South East Asian community (except AZK. God knows why, he's not even vaguely good at starcraft!) | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On November 19 2011 01:23 Shel wrote: I wasn't even talking about cat 5. And I think the wires I used were 10baseT. This was about 10 or 11 years ago. I figured that since the infrastructure in the Philipines is so crappy that maybe they were using older cables. They weren't moving at speeds that needed more then 10baseT anyways. No one even sells Cat3 cable anymore, where would they have gotten this? Also, 10baseT uses the same number of pairs (2) inside the eithernet cable, except that it was capped at 16MHz instead of the 25 of 100BASE-TX due to the fact that the Cat3 wire in use at the time was unsheilded and more vulnerable to crosstalk at higher transfer rates. Even so, most Cat3 cable is still going to use 22 gauge copper wire making it just as difficult to break. What does this have to do with infrastructure? Unless they were plugging ethernet cables into wall jacks wired with Cat3--and even if they were you are correct the 10Mb transfer rate should have been sufficient. And unless the wall jack has an RJ11 connecter (very old standard though I have seen it still) you would actually be able to use Cat5e for patch cables. But this still has nothing to do with your original point about people walking on cables and causing lag. It's just wrong. I really don't want to be rude, but I think there is enough drama regaurding this tourney without additional baseless accusations being thrown around. + Show Spoiler + In something truly unrelated, the reason why all those solid conductor cables you bought all those years ago were "breaking", is likely because you were not crimping them with the correct type of RJ45 connector. The kind that only have two clips and bisect the wire are ment for stranded cable and can in fact break the conductors in the solid kind. You can buy connectors that have three clips and can hold the solid wire securly without breaking it. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
For darn sake apparently they didn't have the sufficient ram during the Tournament. Remember that.? | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
while, this..... | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On November 19 2011 09:32 XRaDiiX wrote: Its was in the Phillipines of all places probably a good chance they were using Cat-3 Cables and Older Tech. For darn sac apparently they didn't have the sufficient ram during the Tournament. Remember that.? Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables. | ||
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BarbieHsu
574 Posts
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote: Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables. To many Americans, the rest of the world is mud huts and caves. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote: Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables. I never said it wasn't an industrialized country i just said they probably have Older tech stop exaggerating things to try and make me look like a dick. Also i was under the impression they didn't have the sufficient ram and they had to steal/use the Ram from the Computers mean't for the HON tournament (maybe why the HON Tournament wasn't held) Because they needed more RAM for the SC2 Event (Priority) But if what you said is true then i was just misinformed. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On November 19 2011 11:51 XRaDiiX wrote: I never said it wasn't an industrialized country i just said they probably have Older tech stop exaggerating things to try and make me look like a dick. Also i was under the impression they didn't have the sufficient ram and they had to steal/use the Ram from the Computers mean't for the HON tournament (maybe why the HON Tournament wasn't held) Because they needed more RAM for the SC2 Event (Priority) But if what you said is true then i was just misinformed. I wasn't trying to make you specifically look like a dick. In this entire PPSL controversy I've seen so many people refer to the Philippines as...less than it is. Sorry if I jumped on you. It was irritating enough to see people be so arbitrarily racist, but to do it in such a grossly misinformed way was particularly obnoxious for me. (Development Economics is one of my specialties) | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On November 19 2011 09:45 Klondikebar wrote: Ok, with all the ammo we have against this guy, we really don't need to be relying on lies. It's been confirmed several times that the RAM was fine in the computers. And do people think the Philippines is all mud huts and caves? It's an industrialized country that actually exports a lot of electronics and its economy isn't exactly shabby. They certainly have access to cables. No economist will count the Philippines as an industrialized country lol. It has a GDP per capita of freakin 2k usd. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On November 19 2011 12:06 chenchen wrote: No economist will count the Philippines as an industrialized country lol. It has a GDP per capita of freakin 2k usd. Every economist will understand that purchasing power parity is far more informative than GDP per capita. Are the Philippines as wealthy as America? No, few countries are. Is it a capable and healthy economy more than capable of procuring the equipment for a Starcraft 2 tournament? Absolutely. | ||
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