BW Teams playing Starcraft 2 - Page 65

On October 29 2011 06:43 GolemMadness wrote:


Yeah, because if your family died you'd just be like "Oh well, it happens."

On October 29 2011 06:30 L_Master wrote:


Yes, the "death" of BW isn't on par with someone's mother dying, but I don't like the way you phrased that.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it sounds somewhat dismissive; like "Oh, it's just a computer game so not that big of a deal, right?"

The thing is, for many BW players, it IS that big of a deal. This is the kind of thing that people are going to get be sad about, cry for, and get depressed for weeks about; especially if it happens quickly in one fell blow. Many, many BW players love BW to that level and have precisely that kind of a cultivated passion for the game. Why do you think you get such fanatical and angry posts from BW guys popping up so often?

On October 29 2011 06:26 RedMosquito wrote:



Since when do people think July isn't good at SC2?? I guess top 5 zerg in the world isn't good enough for some

On October 29 2011 06:37 aTnClouD wrote:
i wonder if they can handle the frustration of losing to bad players time after time since sc2 is designed so people are able to win against much better player with very little effort and some luck. many scbw pros couldn't translate well to sc2 for this reason and i think not every single one of them will like the game enough to dominate the scene.

On October 29 2011 06:44 TheGlassface wrote:
Got warned for stating opinions.
This thread has turned to garbage.
This site slowly keeps turning into a SCII site. We BW fans have mentioned this time and time again, that we're being marginalized and we're pretty much being cuddled and told to go to sleep because there's nothing to stop this E SPORTS TRAINZWOAHMGZ now!!

SO, whatever. I give up. You people can have this website, you can have our pros, you can have your bastardized version of our game, you can have it all.

See you in The Abyss my friends. I'm done here.

On October 29 2011 06:43 L_Master wrote:


Again. Let me emphasize. Your parents, relatives, friends also won't live forever. Are you not similarly sad and upset when they get sick and die?




I'm not sure too many people were "caught blindsided". It doesn't change the fact that BW dying is still a pretty depressing thing for many, many diehard BW fans. Like I said above, even if a family member gets cancer and you know they are going to die eventually it doesn't make it not sad when the time does come.

On October 29 2011 06:44 VPCursed wrote:
This thread has really gone to shit. close? just make a article about it. idfk

On October 29 2011 06:48 lFrost wrote:


yeah exactly. im not sure if TBLS will dominate the scene because sc2 will not fully utilize all of their talents developed from bw, which is why it is such a waste if they were to switch over.. one of the reasons ppl say sc2 is an inferior game is because its more luck dependent and all-in/early attacks are extremely strong compared to bw. noobs can definitely take games off of pros with very little effort. how many times do you see idra lose to no-namers to this day who bunker rush him or do some other cheese. you will almost never see that happen to high level players in bw.

On October 29 2011 06:48 lFrost wrote:


yeah exactly. im not sure if TBLS will dominate the scene because sc2 will not fully utilize all of their talents developed from bw, which is why it is such a waste if they were to switch over.. one of the reasons ppl say sc2 is an inferior game is because its more luck dependent and all-in/early attacks are extremely strong compared to bw. noobs can definitely take games off of pros with very little effort. how many times do you see idra lose to no-namers to this day who bunker rush him or do some other cheese. you will almost never see that happen to high level players in bw.

On October 29 2011 06:30 Zanno wrote:
why can't people just be happy about this

if you could increase viewership of e-sports from a sizable percent of a small fraction of the world, to a sizable percent of the entire world, wouldn't you want to jump on it? believe me, i fuckin' love brood war, but i feel like too many brood war fans have forgotten that the bottom line is that e-sports is about players making from being good at the game. if there's more money to be had in sc2, then they should transition into sc2. think of it this way - 5 years from now, if everyone plays their cards right, all top players could easily have salaries in the 1 million+ range in a scene with international sponsor backing and viewership.

this is perhaps the best possible timing for the transition to begin, because if all the s-class progamers provide their feedback during the sc2 beta, many of the major issues that the bw hardcore have with this game can eventually be resolved

i'm honestly shocked that we're still having arguments about the ui after all this time. it's become increasing clear even if the mechanical aspect of the game is not as difficult there is still a massive skill gap between the top 10 players in the world, and the top 100

what we really need to be rallying for is more micro intensive abilities. here's a really simple example - if the colossus laser swipes were slowed down so that you could dodge them like you can lurker spines, then microed marines would fare much better against colossus, whereas a-moved marines would die just as easily. this is just one example of something to improve micro potentional, and i could easily come up with a dozen of things like this, without adding a single new unit to the game

sc2 is the vehicle which can push starcraft from a national phenomenon to an international phenomenon, so instead of get bitter, we should focus on improving the game which has a greater long term potential for success, to the point where it's as good or better than its predecessor!

On October 29 2011 06:48 lFrost wrote:


yeah exactly. im not sure if TBLS will dominate the scene because sc2 will not fully utilize all of their talents developed from bw, which is why it is such a waste if they were to switch over.. one of the reasons ppl say sc2 is an inferior game is because its more luck dependent and all-in/early attacks are extremely strong compared to bw. noobs can definitely take games off of pros with very little effort. how many times do you see idra lose to no-namers to this day who bunker rush him or do some other cheese. you will almost never see that happen to high level players in bw.

On October 29 2011 06:52 karpo wrote:


You use Idra, a guy who is notoriously bad at defending all-ins, as some kind of proof that cheesing is too strong? All in's rarely win high level matches any more tbh.

On October 29 2011 06:28 Deimos wrote:
I have read the 60 pages that have been written and the feeling I have is that many believe that Superathletes like JD, Flash or Bisu would not be as good in SC2 as they are in BW, let me tell them they are totally wrong . Everyone who ever played BW are better players in Sc2 because Blizzard just introduced substantial aid to the metagame: Automining, rally points, chain orders, unlimited size etcetc groups of units. Why not the only ones that would improve will be Professionals ?,, I see no sense

On October 29 2011 06:48 karpo wrote:


That's some entitlement you have there dude. There's just as much bashing of SC2 as there is people being happy to get BW pros into SC2, it's just that you only see one side of it.

You're being marginalized because BW was always a niche game outside Korea while SC2 is huge in europe/US. You might not like it but that's how it is.