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Noyect
Sweden129 Posts
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rift
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:30 Corsica wrote: Bisuuuuu I bet he will revolutionize Protoss in Sc2. Despite how awesome that would be I find it hard to think of anyone discovering a better way to play protoss that isn't the 1a deathball. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:38 Raiznhell wrote: Despite how awesome that would be I find it hard to think of anyone discovering a better way to play protoss that isn't the 1a deathball. If anyone can do it it would be the revolutionist. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:47 tangwhat wrote: If anyone can do it it would be the revolutionist. Well, I hope Bisu doesn't end up like Che Guevara. I guess most people have one good revolution in them, let's hope Bisu has two. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:38 Zzoram wrote: Ya we really need the Broodwar pros to save SC2 Protoss. Is it...sarcasm? :D Because I actually agree with that statement. Lately I've been watching Bisu's FPVOD. And his multitasking puts to utter shame and insignificance what I can see on streams and replays from the fastest SC2 players around. | ||
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tjosan
Sweden120 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:49 craz3d wrote: Well, I hope Bisu doesn't end up like Che Guevara. I guess most people have one good revolution in them, let's hope Bisu has two. Haha, good call mate! | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
The best BW pros are worlds better than the former BW pros who are leading the SC2 scene at the moment, so this is gonna be awesome | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:38 Zzoram wrote: Ya we really need the Broodwar pros to save SC2 Protoss. Last time I checked, Protoss in BW needed saving too, Jangbi's amazing OSL win aside. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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Imalengrat
Australia365 Posts
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
On the one hand, I'm an SC2 watcher who's absolutely giddy at the thought of top Brood War players switching. But on the other hand, I have nothing but respect for Brood War (and really regret not getting into the scene earlier), and I definitely do NOT want BW to die. I think I'd prefer BW players to stay BW players for awhile. After all, Starcraft 2 can survive without Brood War players, but I doubt the same can be said for Brood War. | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On November 01 2011 17:47 tangwhat wrote: If anyone can do it it would be the revolutionist. It's an entirely different game, you realize right? Everything has been scaled down so anyone can pick up the game and play it. The better you are, the better you can do a certain build. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On November 01 2011 18:34 Silidons wrote: It's an entirely different game, you realize right? Everything has been scaled down so anyone can pick up the game and play it. The better you are, the better you can do a certain build. And this means that noone can come up with new builds? | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
New builds/compositions imo will be more adjustments and refinements, outside of the obvious patching that changes things. People seem to keep using the term metagame when it's more patching pushing strategy changes than evolution on it's own. Also everything is within pro players skill level, for the most part; You don't get niche strategies relying 100% on micro to survive at all (say, 2hatch prehaps as an obvious example or sair/reaver or 2port wraith) because that kind of thing is too vulnerable in SC2 compared to BW. Things like uphill advantage and clumped units affect this somewhat as well. You can defend a much weaker uphill position in BW to a huge extent, allowing you to hold ramps/chokes with much greater ease and therefore rely more on specialist units as your aggression. For example of how clumping changes things, a large marine/medic army will find it hard to break a concave of sunkens in a choke; simply because of space. Allowing Zerg to tech harder or focus more on mutalisk harass. Hope this explains it somewhat but i don't think that SC2 will be subject to sweeping strategy changes without patching helping it. Things will be refined in more subtle ways still though of course. If there is a specialist unit composition that somehow becomes viable instead of the core units (and isn't just a cheese or relying on surprise), personally i think they would patch it because they want a certain composition in the first place. The BW strategy advancements that continue to this day are pretty much all because its so ridiculously hard mechanically, new things are done a lot of the time just because they literally couldn't do it before. All RTS games i can think of are relatively strategically simple at their core so if the difficulty is reasonable, the game will be worked out to it's most effective strategies within a short time, especially with the amount of talented minds playing SC2 at an immediately professional level. Edit: and yeah what you are talking about, Bisu as the revolutionist.. he is so because he was the only player who could multitask to the extent that sair/dt needed beat top zergs at the top. His PvZ and corsair usage is still better than everyone elses, 4 years on. The strategy spread to others but it was his mechanical superiority that allowed him to do it first and easiest. | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On November 01 2011 18:46 Logros wrote: And this means that noone can come up with new builds? Current patch? There will be either no or 1-2 new builds (that aren't stupid gimmick builds, like a 2 gate/rax/etc proxy cheese) in total for all 3 races. Meaning across all 3 races, there will be either 0-2 new builds NOT for EVERY race, but ALL together. So like terran 1 protoss 1 zerg 0. Mark my words. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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