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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 28 2011 11:16 GMT
#201
Cant wait for Bisu to lead the Protoss race.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 28 2011 11:17 GMT
#202
Holy. ****ing. Crap.

This is huge news.
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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 28 2011 11:17 GMT
#203
On October 28 2011 20:10 Blizzard_torments_me wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 20:09 DreamRaider wrote:
Most BW players seriously hit master league less than 2 weeks? Are you serious?


Reaching master league is all about mechanics, what's so strange that top pro's from BW made it into master league fast?

As Zerg, reaching masters Korean this early is unbelievable. For Terran and Protoss, it was probably a bit easier.

TvT: BW players should dominate this.
TvZ making marine tank medivac will beat players through sheer macro
TvP: mmm through sheer macro

PvT: making stalker colossi
PvZ: making stalkers
PvP: just out micro them.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
October 28 2011 11:21 GMT
#204
On October 28 2011 20:17 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 20:10 Blizzard_torments_me wrote:
On October 28 2011 20:09 DreamRaider wrote:
Most BW players seriously hit master league less than 2 weeks? Are you serious?


Reaching master league is all about mechanics, what's so strange that top pro's from BW made it into master league fast?

As Zerg, reaching masters Korean this early is unbelievable. For Terran and Protoss, it was probably a bit easier.

TvT: BW players should dominate this.
TvZ making marine tank medivac will beat players through sheer macro
TvP: mmm through sheer macro

PvT: making stalker colossi
PvZ: making stalkers
PvP: just out micro them.

I disagree,
In ZvZ outmicro with 500 sc2 apm
in ZvT can use same BO as in BW (muta ling)
In ZvP I'm guessing mutas - hydra,Corruptor or just sheer outmacro.
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 11:23:45
October 28 2011 11:23 GMT
#205
So SC2 PL will have SC2 teams + BW teams, or just the latter?


On October 28 2011 20:09 DreamRaider wrote:
Most BW players seriously hit master league less than 2 weeks? Are you serious?

You can easily get to Masters with just 6pooling/other all-in...
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
October 28 2011 11:23 GMT
#206
On October 28 2011 20:01 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 19:57 gn0m wrote:
On October 28 2011 19:51 TORTOISE wrote:
I hope SC2 isn't being "forced" upon these guys. If SC2 were to fail in Korea, it would be because teams forced switches and nobody played for the passion anymore.

Or maybe due to the fact that Koreans aren’t that interested in SC2.
On October 26 2011 02:24 konadora wrote:

Netizen's general consensus about Proleague matches' frequency and other issues

with regards to SC2, 48.9% (or 1345 voters, out of 2752 voters) said no to SC2 completely, while the other options - "SC2 slowly integrated", "implement SC2 straightaway" and "misc" - got 34.2%, 16.0% and 0.9% votes respectively.

source: fomos


Almost 50 % don’t want to see SC2 at all whereas only 16 % want it to be implemented right away.

Polls don't mean jack, people are stubborn haters and afraid of change, they will flame sc2 everywhere they can, but eventually the majority will still watch it.

Why would so many people flame a game they like to watch..?
On October 28 2011 20:01 Clefairy wrote:Judging by the comments it's because they want SC2 in a separate league instead of mixing SC1 and SC2 which would cause confusion over practice schedules.

I don’t see how there would be any confusion over practice schedules as I find it pretty unlikely that anyone would play both games at the same time? Maybe I misunderstood what you meant. It is however true that many of the “no voters” probably like to watch SC2 but want it to be separated from BW leagues.
-_-
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
October 28 2011 11:24 GMT
#207
On October 28 2011 20:16 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 19:57 gn0m wrote:
On October 28 2011 19:51 TORTOISE wrote:
I hope SC2 isn't being "forced" upon these guys. If SC2 were to fail in Korea, it would be because teams forced switches and nobody played for the passion anymore.

Or maybe due to the fact that Koreans aren’t that interested in SC2.
On October 26 2011 02:24 konadora wrote:

Netizen's general consensus about Proleague matches' frequency and other issues

with regards to SC2, 48.9% (or 1345 voters, out of 2752 voters) said no to SC2 completely, while the other options - "SC2 slowly integrated", "implement SC2 straightaway" and "misc" - got 34.2%, 16.0% and 0.9% votes respectively.

source: fomos


Almost 50 % don’t want to see SC2 at all whereas only 16 % want it to be implemented right away.


And that was done where? A poll depends alot on what site and what community is voting. Using it as some kind of evidence isn't really fair tbh.

I for one am happy that more good players are practicing SC2. I have no interest in BW so the more people who switch over the better.


That poll was in Fomos I believe

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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
October 28 2011 11:25 GMT
#208
On October 28 2011 20:23 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 20:09 DreamRaider wrote:
Most BW players seriously hit master league less than 2 weeks? Are you serious?

You can easily get to Masters with just 6pooling/other all-in...


I dont thinkt that is the point of their training...
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9173 Posts
October 28 2011 11:26 GMT
#209
Give it half a year and very few of the current SC2 progamers will survive. Considering the impact the best BW player to switch (MVP) has had the better BW players should dominate given time.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 11:30:06
October 28 2011 11:27 GMT
#210
This is VERY exciting, I just can't wait to see the best of BW play SC2. I am very curious as to who we may see changing races and the level of control and multitasking they introduce to sc2. I still see top players in SC2 getting behind on OC and Nexus energy, leaving medevacs and prisms to die. Stacking up minerals and gas when they are not maxed, and using 1a instead of flanks. Suiciding spell casters, and not using everything at their disposal to get an advantage. Things like having piles of overlords at their rally point instead of all over the map to give vision or have full creep spread around there bases. Overseers constantly delaying production, burrow being a mainstay of ZvX, changlings always being out. Terrans making a reaper every few minutes all game long to have better scouting (and save scans) protoss warp in multitask. All of these things are probably going to be payed much more attention to.

I think when the top BW players get a few months under their belts a new level of top play will emerge in SC2. It's something Artosis has brought up several times and been criticized for but I believe he is spot on.
:)
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
October 28 2011 11:28 GMT
#211
A New Age is Coming, and it's gonna be amazing as long as HoTS doesn't screw the game up.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
October 28 2011 11:28 GMT
#212
What a waste of potential if Jaedong switched to SC2. He couldn't display his muta micro then.
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Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
October 28 2011 11:28 GMT
#213
Perhaps totally unrelated, but the upgraded PC in this Fomos photo is from Quantum, who has an active SC2 team and is recruiting.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 28 2011 11:30 GMT
#214
Are the best BW players like Flash and JaeDong actually going to play SC2? Or will it just be players who want to play SC2 because their BW results aren't up to par?
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 28 2011 11:30 GMT
#215
On October 28 2011 20:21 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 20:17 Micket wrote:
On October 28 2011 20:10 Blizzard_torments_me wrote:
On October 28 2011 20:09 DreamRaider wrote:
Most BW players seriously hit master league less than 2 weeks? Are you serious?


Reaching master league is all about mechanics, what's so strange that top pro's from BW made it into master league fast?

As Zerg, reaching masters Korean this early is unbelievable. For Terran and Protoss, it was probably a bit easier.

TvT: BW players should dominate this.
TvZ making marine tank medivac will beat players through sheer macro
TvP: mmm through sheer macro

PvT: making stalker colossi
PvZ: making stalkers
PvP: just out micro them.

I disagree,
In ZvZ outmicro with 500 sc2 apm
in ZvT can use same BO as in BW (muta ling)
In ZvP I'm guessing mutas - hydra,Corruptor or just sheer outmacro.

But defending timings is much harder. It takes 50 2 rax's just to not fall behind against it. Hellions? Banshees? Random stim timing? Once it gets to mid game BW pros would win extremely easily.
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
October 28 2011 11:30 GMT
#216
Meh, the game will not become any more exciting to watch. Jaedong won't be able to micro mutas if the game doesn't allow him to.
t.t
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
October 28 2011 11:31 GMT
#217
This is the day I've been waiting for... :D
...
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
October 28 2011 11:32 GMT
#218
This thread is making me so depressed. Reading posts where people are celebrating the death of broodwar is like people celebrating that their older brother is going to die and their parents will only pay attention to them now. ;_; x 1000
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5816 Posts
October 28 2011 11:32 GMT
#219
On October 28 2011 20:28 blubbdavid wrote:
What a waste of potential if Jaedong switched to SC2. He couldn't display his muta micro then.


This. Compared to BW, SC2 has hardly any micro and map control. ;/ And blizzard won't fix it. They want a simple game they can balance around flawed gameplay design. Micro would require LAN and LAN is something they don't want...
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 28 2011 11:32 GMT
#220
On October 28 2011 20:30 ZAiNs wrote:
Are the best BW players like Flash and JaeDong actually going to play SC2? Or will it just be players who want to play SC2 because their BW results aren't up to par?

The latter, probably. They'll just have support from their BW teams, unlike all the other ex-BW pros that switched. Flash and Jaedong make so much money from BW that it'd be silly of them to switch to SC2.
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