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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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aFganFlyTrap
Australia212 Posts
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DueleR
United States207 Posts
On October 28 2011 23:58 Nizzy wrote: Forget MaDFroG. Now I played WC3 for about 6 years followed the scene maybe even harder than I follow SC2 now. MaDFroG was sick however there's a few other players I wonder about more than him. What about Mother Fucking SHOWTIME MOTHER FUCKING WERRA. ShowTime.WeRRa This guy IIRC was the 'it' guy just slightly before Grubby/Moon. He was so nasty. Definitely the best in the world for a small period of time. Guy even came to East and fucked up Azeroth on a few smurfs. He had the most EPIC post on the blizzard forums that went something like this: Title: 'Power Blue' Message: 'Now 6-1 = rank 1 ladder? I will give try but not good' /thread. --- Deadman? aka apm70 I believe. Russian player I believe. I also wonder about TiLLeRMaN and how good he would be at SC2. The guy was so knowledgeable about WC3 IT WAS DISGUSTING. please please please does anyone on here remember 'the-inclan.com' iN.TiLLeRMaN. That site was literally teamliquid.net for the first year of WC3 ROC. Such good times. SC series might produce better RT's than WC however there's just stuff in WC community that don't touch SC and I can't explain it. I was around for all that too, I actually quit War3 around the time TFT came out so all my memories are from RoC. I even hung out on Kali with guys like TillerMaN before war3 itself came out and everyone was playing BW. Lots of good memories from those years  Showtime was a boss in the early days of War3 and I remember him coming to USEast. Actually there were a lot of people that I remember dominating East ladder for various periods of time: Futile/Futility/Whorcraft - the same guy had 3 accounts in the top 3 of USEast at the same time. Played NE and HU. He was a student at Columbia University at the time, now he works for goldman sachs. Qazzi - always would make new accounts and compile insane w/l records, he was a college student at the time too (rutgers) Xa_Metro/FearFaCT - UD player, also was a college student back then (Drexel), he was #1 or near the top of USeast for a while. Quit and played poker semi-seriously I think. Then I remember when Deadman-1 started dominating europe (played NE and UD) and everyone accused him of hacking...then it came out that he actually did hack. Still he managed a pretty nice career for himself afterward, people gave him second chances I guess. | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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aFganFlyTrap
Australia212 Posts
crazy good player but even crazier russian | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On October 29 2011 02:20 Hider wrote: 1) Ehh. Throught you realized i wanted you to be specific (and tank on high ground + 1 base mech doesn't count as he did not invent them). 2) Well not in the short term. But long term it would and should be. SO if you only do gimmicks/cheese/all ins your not improving long term. 3) Yeh be specific again. 4) Ok. Do I look like an expert in a year old terran one-base strategies to you? I just was around during that time and I remember casters talking about his innovative builds and such. And my point is you might think it should be macro based(every time you say something like that, warning flags should come up), but that it wasn't necessarily so. He's obviously not the only person to play 'abusive', but out of all successful players right around the end of beta, he took it the furthest, so he's like the quintessential player of a certain style that died out nowadays, which is why I thought he's relevant from a historical perspective. | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
silver was a bad player too, he can't won after first terran nerf in TvZ, and his TvT TvP were very bad too | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
I would assume with the then uncertain ability to make a living off SC2 (Huk won 2k from Raleigh?) and his trouble playing with the spotlight he just decided it wasn't worth it. That's totally my speculation for Silver though. As this thread is about Madfrog, I could have sworn that he already had a job before his SK contract ended, which is why they didn't think he was worth the money he was asking for when it came time to renew. He just didn't want to commit to SC2 full time and tried to go it as a part-timer for a while. But of course the European scene has really exploded in the last year, so he disappeared from competitive play as he couldn't keep up as a part-timer either. | ||
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On October 29 2011 02:46 3772 wrote: Deadman is that psycho guy I remember from some interview? Probably the best interview of all time: Some other good Deadman-stuff: Good times. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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unnar
Iceland211 Posts
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Blizzard_torments_me
Romania199 Posts
On October 28 2011 23:58 Nizzy wrote: Forget MaDFroG. Now I played WC3 for about 6 years followed the scene maybe even harder than I follow SC2 now. MaDFroG was sick however there's a few other players I wonder about more than him. What about Mother Fucking SHOWTIME MOTHER FUCKING WERRA. ShowTime.WeRRa This guy IIRC was the 'it' guy just slightly before Grubby/Moon. He was so nasty. Definitely the best in the world for a small period of time. Guy even came to East and fucked up Azeroth on a few smurfs. He had the most EPIC post on the blizzard forums that went something like this: Title: 'Power Blue' Message: 'Now 6-1 = rank 1 ladder? I will give try but not good' /thread. --- Deadman? aka apm70 I believe. Russian player I believe. I also wonder about TiLLeRMaN and how good he would be at SC2. The guy was so knowledgeable about WC3 IT WAS DISGUSTING. please please please does anyone on here remember 'the-inclan.com' iN.TiLLeRMaN. That site was literally teamliquid.net for the first year of WC3 ROC. Such good times. SC series might produce better RT's than WC however there's just stuff in WC community that don't touch SC and I can't explain it. There were far more better Koreans than Showtime.Werra who abused Ancients of War back in in Reign of Chaos. Tillerman only played in ROC also and the skill lvl back then was simply awful. In 2008 I wen't and watched some old replays between Grubby and Madfrog from early days of TFT. I would laugh at how bad they were compared to how they played in 2008. Trust me, early days of Warcraft 3, that mean's Reign of Chaos and a bit of TFT weren't that impressive compared to how the pros played in 2008. I'm pretty sure if Showtime would play SC2 full time he would be an average korean lvl pro. That is 100% assured just by their work ethic and prohouses. | ||
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EricCartman
Canada306 Posts
SK deadman, SK hot were legendary. dont forget FoV and 4K. Best moment was when 4K creo prevented Sky from a hat trick of WCGs. | ||
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iruel
Canada75 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:23 Piledriver wrote: This is a perfect example of being an IdrA sheep. Silver was having excellent results even when he quit, but most people still irrationally hate on him (like they hated Cruncher) just because IdrA said "He is a terrible player". I think its good to have your own opinions once in a while and look at results and players objectively instead of parroting what IdrA says. Almost every person who IdrA calls terrible are people who he has lost to at some point and he just doesnt have the humility to accept that he got outplayed by them. He even called people like KiwiKaKi, MarineKing, Nestea , HuK and NaNiwa terrible at some points of time, and they are all better players than him (except for maybe KiwiKaKi) and have better results than him as well. To be fair at the time, those players were not good. Idra doesn't just throw around those accusations, he is a very intelligent guy and there is usually something to his claims, just turns out that a bunch of those players stepped it up big time and got good later on. (except cruncher, Idra was dead on about him) | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
On October 29 2011 02:44 DueleR wrote: I was around for all that too, I actually quit War3 around the time TFT came out so all my memories are from RoC. I even hung out on Kali with guys like TillerMaN before war3 itself came out and everyone was playing BW. Lots of good memories from those years Showtime was a boss in the early days of War3 and I remember him coming to USEast. Actually there were a lot of people that I remember dominating East ladder for various periods of time: Futile/Futility/Whorcraft - the same guy had 3 accounts in the top 3 of USEast at the same time. Played NE and HU. He was a student at Columbia University at the time, now he works for goldman sachs. Qazzi - always would make new accounts and compile insane w/l records, he was a college student at the time too (rutgers) Xa_Metro/FearFaCT - UD player, also was a college student back then (Drexel), he was #1 or near the top of USeast for a while. Quit and played poker semi-seriously I think. Then I remember when Deadman-1 started dominating europe (played NE and UD) and everyone accused him of hacking...then it came out that he actually did hack. Still he managed a pretty nice career for himself afterward, people gave him second chances I guess. well as in SC2 everyone who came to play on NA servers pretty much dominated them since there was far less competition there were many american clans that destroyed US ladders and then they fought for last place in wc3l ofc there were some exceptions like aether, ghostrider or shortround but overall it wasnt much of a deal having awesome stats on USEast or USWest On October 30 2011 02:19 EricCartman wrote: Best moment was when 4K creo prevented Sky from a hat trick of WCGs. worst day in wc3 history  | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
Ahhh wc3 days were the shit. Miss the wc3 community.. so much different than the sc2 community. It had a more brotherly feel. No modding necessary! dont know about that brotherly feel but SK-gaming was so funny and retarded at the same time with 8 trolls out 10 posters. Good ol time indeed Best moment was when 4K creo prevented Sky from a hat trick of WCGs .blind european fanboyism prevented them from acknowledging that Creo was an one-hit wonder | ||
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GrapeD
Canada679 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:24 Fanek wrote: Silver from Canada? Did he win something? I know nothing about this guy. He beat IdrA this one time and IdrA got mad. Thats about it tho. | ||
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AbstractVoid
United States127 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:30 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Actually Silver I know personally, he even admits he was a noob who only abused terran's strengths. He spends most of his time playing Smashcraft (an insanely cool sc2 custom game) with his clan Sync EDIT: Make no mistake, Silver is still a decent player, easily better than me, but not pro gaming level Wow that is Silver? I've talked to Silver personally quite a bit and played Smashcraft with him and casted a few tournaments with him and he never mentioned he ever tried to play SC2 competitively lol. | ||
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On October 30 2011 03:10 Arceus wrote: . blind european fanboyism prevented them from acknowledging that Creo was an one-hit wonder Creo the one-hit wonder that won WCG and Blizzcon and finished 2nd in the ESWC in the same year. Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about. | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
On October 30 2011 02:11 Blizzard_torments_me wrote: There were far more better Koreans than Showtime.Werra who abused Ancients of War back in in Reign of Chaos. Tillerman only played in ROC also and the skill lvl back then was simply awful. In 2008 I wen't and watched some old replays between Grubby and Madfrog from early days of TFT. I would laugh at how bad they were compared to how they played in 2008. Trust me, early days of Warcraft 3, that mean's Reign of Chaos and a bit of TFT weren't that impressive compared to how the pros played in 2008. I'm pretty sure if Showtime would play SC2 full time he would be an average korean lvl pro. That is 100% assured just by their work ethic and prohouses. I just wrote a big long response to your post about everything and how much I disliked it/stuff that was wrong/etc and then I just deleted. You kind of don't understand certain things about how/where the game was and I don't want to discuss it. | ||
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