On October 30 2011 02:11 Blizzard_torments_me wrote: There were far more better Koreans than Showtime.Werra who abused Ancients of War back in in Reign of Chaos. Tillerman only played in ROC also and the skill lvl back then was simply awful. In 2008 I wen't and watched some old replays between Grubby and Madfrog from early days of TFT. I would laugh at how bad they were compared to how they played in 2008. Trust me, early days of Warcraft 3, that mean's Reign of Chaos and a bit of TFT weren't that impressive compared to how the pros played in 2008. I'm pretty sure if Showtime would play SC2 full time he would be an average korean lvl pro. That is 100% assured just by their work ethic and prohouses.
I just wrote a big long response to your post about everything and how much I disliked it/stuff that was wrong/etc and then I just deleted. You kind of don't understand certain things about how/where the game was and I don't want to discuss it.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion man, I played Warcraft 3 for 8 freaking years and had a good understanding of the game, and that's what I saw.
blind european fanboyism prevented them from acknowledging that Creo was an one-hit wonder
Creo the one-hit wonder that won WCG and Blizzcon and finished 2nd in the ESWC in the same year. Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.
winning wcg/blizzcon and 2nd at eswc then retiring from war3 to further his studies. you have no idea do you. everyone including 4kings knew he was the real deal and many people begged him to stay in the scene after his WCG victory but unfortunately he wouldnt
blind european fanboyism prevented them from acknowledging that Creo was an one-hit wonder
Creo the one-hit wonder that won WCG and Blizzcon and finished 2nd in the ESWC in the same year. Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.
winning wcg/blizzcon and 2nd at eswc then retiring from war3 to further his studies. you have no idea do you. everyone including 4kings knew he was the real deal and many people begged him to stay in the scene after his WCG victory but unfortunately he wouldnt
QFT Creo was inactive-ish before WCG, trained for like 2 months??- then won everything in the time he was active again and afterwards went back to his studies. I remember a few years after that he played some ENC games under the ID Sjokomelk_ (Spelling) and i think one every game vs the top in Europe despite having been inactive for like 2 years
blind european fanboyism prevented them from acknowledging that Creo was an one-hit wonder
Creo the one-hit wonder that won WCG and Blizzcon and finished 2nd in the ESWC in the same year. Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.
winning wcg/blizzcon and 2nd at eswc then retiring from war3 to further his studies. you have no idea do you. everyone including 4kings knew he was the real deal and many people begged him to stay in the scene after his WCG victory but unfortunately he wouldnt
QFT Creo was inactive-ish before WCG, trained for like 2 months??- then won everything in the time he was active again and afterwards went back to his studies. I remember a few years after that he played some ENC under the ID Sjokomelk_ (Spelling) and i think one every game vs the top in Europe despite having been inactive for like 2 years
Creolophus was one of the most talented players there was, he had the skills all the way, he just needed some time to really accelerate. But he definitly top, it's plain bullshit he was a one hit wonder, he had very decent results before, just no major wins yet, at the moment he peaked / took the major wins he also quitted competitive gaming.
sorry for the bump but i didn't wanna make a new thread about madfrog.
anyone got updates on him? being a early wc3 fan and watching his reign of terror through the early years, i really did expect a crap load of play when he started to become active in sc2 during the beta and such.. but now he just vanished, in 2011 he didnt renew his contract with SK, is that when he just.. stopped? or is he still playing but just not attending any tournaments?
He was always a prison guard afaik. I do believe he said he felt that he did not have the time to be as good as he wanted at SC2 while maintaining a full time job so I believe he choosed his job. (Can be wrong though, but pretty sure I heard it in a interview)
I have also wondered where Madfrog went, I remember watching quite a lot of replays with him playing in 2010, and he definitely had a unique style, sometimes even trying 3 hatch vs Terran We can assume though that he has left the scene, be it that he saw no prospect in playing professional SC2 or if he had other endeavours to pursue. All we can do is speculate until someone posts an official statement of what he is doing at the moment.
From what I gathered at the time he was juggling SC2 and a full-time job. At the end of his contract with SK he stated a desire to go full-time with SC2 and move to Korea to practice but SK weren't satisfied enough with his results to make that commitment so he went full-time with his job instead and quit SC2.
On April 06 2012 20:24 cuppatea wrote: From what I gathered at the time he was juggling SC2 and a full-time job. At the end of his contract with SK he stated a desire to go full-time with SC2 and move to Korea to practice but SK weren't satisfied enough with his results to make that commitment so he went full-time with his job instead and quit SC2.
That's too bad. I thought it was the other way around meaning that he didn't really want to commit to Sc2 but I never took the time to do some research, thanks for clearing that up for me. Madfrog's style of playing Wc3 was definitely suited to transition well to Sc2. He played aggressively and had clutch decision making in tense situations. I think he could have made it to the top.
On October 28 2011 08:34 ampson wrote: Last I heard he was a prison guard and not playing competitively.
Prison guard? i met em irl and that.. is no prison guard material
Not sure that applies to Sweden.
IKEA-theft is a big thing there
Too bad he stopped, allways loved the rivalry between him and Grubby in WC3. If I look at how good Grubby is getting (future gsl code s, calling it) its too bad hes not also on that level anymore :/
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We can assume though that he has left the scene, be it that he saw no prospect in playing professional SC2 or if he had other endeavours to pursue. All we can do is speculate until someone posts an official statement of what he is doing at the moment.
