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Hikari
1914 Posts
At least Dustin Browder gave us a slightly more technical answer as to why there is no lan, right? Still, what terrible terrible Someone should have asked Blizzard to implement a "melee map of the month" feature, where the winner (through votes) have a chance to be included into the blizzard ladder, right? | ||
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ElemUnit
United States38 Posts
Definitely appreciate the effort put in from both sides(The community + DB himself) | ||
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
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Stringy
United States127 Posts
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
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Funguuuuu
United States198 Posts
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Kdog3wa
Sweden40 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On October 25 2011 10:02 Zarahtra wrote: Nice interview. Never really understood all the hate Dustin gets, seems like a pretty awesome guy. Still not happy about the last answer, sounds like horrible coding to be honest, if anything and everything is connected together through bnet and can't work unless you have bnet like server. Hope they do find some way to implement lan, even if fx. the computers still have to be connected to bnet(to prevent piracy), just not having the games being played through it, would help a lot. Also not happy about the map answer, but it really seemed like he didn't understand the question. What they could rather easily do without changing any of their architecture at all is to just send a local battle.net server to every major event. That way they gain all the control they want and we get to play games locally at tournaments. This is how it is done in WoW-arena and I think Quake Live does something similar too. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
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UniversalMind
United States326 Posts
other wise great interview and props for not getting p'ed when he started yawning and interrupting you, I would have snapped | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
On October 25 2011 10:50 lowercase wrote: I also agree that the balance team is a bit schizophrenic: on the one hand they want to make "tiny changes" and let the community balance the game over time, but then they go and nerf all sorts of interesting strategies (e.g.: archon toilet, high-ground warp-in, speed rays, chain fungals, etc, etc) because they "aren't what they expected players to do." BW was great because all the abilities were crazy and OP, it's what made the game dynamic and exciting. Watching two deathballs 1a into eachother where whoever gets the best EMPs off wins is hardly enjoyable. Yeah, their biggest mistake was balancing the game lol. I mean if you look back, sc2 had a lot of interesting ideas that I was really excited about. But they nerfed it all to oblivion. The roach was once an interesting unit with high speed regeneration. But they made it a massable unit and took the ability away from it unless burrowed. Then the baneling used to be interesting because it was big seemed powerful, but they nerfed that too. I was so excited when i tried to use one baneling at a mineral line, thinking how awsome it's going to be, but it didn't kill a single probe. The infestor had a sweet ability once. It would shoot a parasite at a marine or marauder, and then the marine or marauder would explode after a few seconds, killing all the infantry units near it. They played a game infront of people while using this ability and people screamed. It was awesome, required the opponent to micro, and you didn't know what was going to happen. Suspense. But they removed it, and now we have boring fungal. It's just too forgiving. Storm strength nerfed heavily. People think splash is strong now? Look at bw, splash would straight up kill your whole army if you had them clumped, and the game worked. But on top of nerfing, they removed visible micro actions that make us go wow. Reaver drops are gone. This was difficult and seeing a pro do it was different than seeing your hot shot friend do it. Dragoons going just far enough, then hold position as the mine pops up and the goons take it out without a scratch. Dragging mines into enemies.... :D Medic walls, taking out a lurker with 3 marines, catching sairs with scourge, seigeing your tanks perfectly, hold position lurkers.... I could really go on forever. All that while macroing. In sc2, all that's left is strategy, macro and casting spells. The micro/magic is not there. | ||
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GypsyBeast
Canada630 Posts
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
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dtvu
Australia687 Posts
At the moment all three races are very similar in that the all have high HP and high damage and highly expensive units: Protoss (colossi, Immortals, Void Rays), Terran (Tanks, Thors, BCs, Banshee), Zerg (Roach, Ultralisk, Broodlord). They all have lower cost, but faster units (although protoss a bit more expensive here). In addition, all have fast units and the number of spells/abilities are quite similar. Zerg no longer have to make more hatchery due to queens and larva injection, so all three race can play evenly on same number of bases. So for me only the mechanics and the look of the races are different, but they all feel the same in terms strength - thus the death ball vs death ball we see all the time. | ||
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FinBenton
Finland870 Posts
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
I thought it was pretty interesting that about the map making question that he didnt seem to understand why no one was playing on the community made maps. I know at least for me if im searching for a high level map to play on I have to really dig for it... It'd be nice if there was a better way to organize the map search screen. I know on NA theres been like 4 versions of xel naga caverns and 4 shattered temples on the front page, then not even another ladder map to be found. It really really sucks if you wanna get in some practice games or play an off-race... theres really almost no way to do it unless you want one of those two maps. | ||
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mason84m
5 Posts
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
On October 25 2011 10:41 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why provide a link to the reddit post in this thread? The idea is not developed at all and not worth responding to in its current form. I imagine you don't have any special knowledge about designing and balancing games, about being a progamer, or about organizing communities and putting community plans into action. But if you do happen to have the relevant knowledge, then make the proposal as detailed as you possibly can before you present it. It seems that the basic problem you are trying to solve is that progamers' knowledge is a somewhat untapped resource for Blizzard's multiplayer design team. I fail to see how your idea suggests a good way to remedy the situation. It seems like you've just recently realized that this problem exists, you were instantly convinced that it actually is a significant problem that really needs to be fixed, and then you sketched out the first scheme that came to your mind. It leaves a million pitfalls and improves nothing. You're mostly right, appreciate your sense of logic. I should have thought and researched more on the subject... well, pro gamers are not designers after all. | ||
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