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Noorgrin
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany116 Posts
October 25 2011 07:00 GMT
#241
On October 25 2011 03:04 pStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 03:02 VirgilSC2 wrote:
While I was never a huge Brood War follower, I sincerely hope this is either:

A) A NEW KT Rolster SC2 Team
B) A Hardware Upgrade for no reason

I'd hate to see the current A-Team from Rolster switch over, it makes much more sense to sign a new SC2 team, seeing as Proleague will now feature both SC2 and Brood War.

EDIT:
*removed image*


What is the keyboard that is being used in this?


Zowie Celeritas

same one i use btw :D
Q(-_-Q)
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
October 25 2011 07:03 GMT
#242
I would have halved the ram and downgrade the graphics card a bit for an i7 instead. SC2 is more processor reliant.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 07:15:26
October 25 2011 07:15 GMT
#243
On October 25 2011 16:03 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I would have halved the ram and downgrade the graphics card a bit for an i7 instead. SC2 is more processor reliant.



The extra threads that the i7 provides is worthless. i7 processors are not actuly better or faster, they just have more threads which is useful for video rendering etc. Coming from an i7 owner, they are just the same as i5's for gaming, infact worse, because the extra heat generated by hyperthreading means you cant overclock frequency as high.


i5 has 4 cores 4 threads, i7 has 4 cores 8 threads.


Starcraft 2 uses 1 thread, and offloads audio etc onto a second.


The other 2-4 threads are idle, at 0-1% usage, for the entire gameplay experience, even in 800 vs 800 food where you are fps capped hard by CPU, an i5 at 5ghz gives you the exact same fps as an i7 at 5ghz and yet costs $100 less.



RAM is worthless past 4gb for sc2 performance.


I run with 6gb RAM on my first gen i7 (triple channel) and running just windows 7 with aero disabled (which i do for performance, enabling it adds a delay to everything for no reason) i can run windows and sc2 with under 2.5gb RAM at peak, so the extra RAM does nothing at all.


I cap at about 400fps on lowest settings 1920x1080, that caps 1 CPU core, puts another at 20% or so, and puts my GTX580 to 25% load.


The GTX560 is too powerful for the game unless they run on high/extreme settings, and wont run at anything near max capacity.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
October 25 2011 07:27 GMT
#244
On October 25 2011 16:03 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I would have halved the ram and downgrade the graphics card a bit for an i7 instead. SC2 is more processor reliant.


They'll be able to run at max settings with that processor anyway. We're not even sure they're upgrading for SC2 anyway.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 25 2011 07:39 GMT
#245
On October 25 2011 03:09 BroodWarHD wrote:
CRT to lcd is more of a down grade though.. even if a 120hz lcd, its still much slowe than the 150-250 HZ crts can push through at BW resolution
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote:
This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers.

Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^
Ahem, such software is already available http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

OMG, why aren't they all using that graphics ?! (have no idea what it is ....)

It actually makes bw watchable!
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
October 25 2011 08:00 GMT
#246
On October 25 2011 16:39 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 03:09 BroodWarHD wrote:
CRT to lcd is more of a down grade though.. even if a 120hz lcd, its still much slowe than the 150-250 HZ crts can push through at BW resolution
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote:
This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers.

Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^
Ahem, such software is already available http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

OMG, why aren't they all using that graphics ?! (have no idea what it is ....)

It actually makes bw watchable!



It is a resolution hack.


It uses the exact same graphics, sprites, effects, etc, but displays at a higher resolution.


People need to learn what resolution actuly means, i see so many people (not really you, but others) going OMGGGGGG!!11!!11!1!1!!HIGH DEFINITION without actuly having a clue what they are talking about.

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
October 25 2011 08:03 GMT
#247
On October 25 2011 17:00 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 16:39 Gotmog wrote:
On October 25 2011 03:09 BroodWarHD wrote:
CRT to lcd is more of a down grade though.. even if a 120hz lcd, its still much slowe than the 150-250 HZ crts can push through at BW resolution
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote:
This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers.

Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^
Ahem, such software is already available http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

OMG, why aren't they all using that graphics ?! (have no idea what it is ....)

It actually makes bw watchable!



It is a resolution hack.


It uses the exact same graphics, sprites, effects, etc, but displays at a higher resolution.


People need to learn what resolution actuly means, i see so many people (not really you, but others) going OMGGGGGG!!11!!11!1!1!!HIGH DEFINITION without actuly having a clue what they are talking about.



Yeah but, since bw is all sprite based, would not a higher resolution enlarge the field of view?

Wouldn't that be cosidered cheating, since you can see more stuff than someone with the normal resolution, without moving the camera?
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
October 25 2011 08:04 GMT
#248
If people are thinking this means Flash will be playing SC2, don't get your hopes up. Its prob just KT starting up a SC2 division.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 08:16:22
October 25 2011 08:15 GMT
#249
On October 25 2011 17:03 PlosionCornu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 17:00 Cyro wrote:
On October 25 2011 16:39 Gotmog wrote:
On October 25 2011 03:09 BroodWarHD wrote:
CRT to lcd is more of a down grade though.. even if a 120hz lcd, its still much slowe than the 150-250 HZ crts can push through at BW resolution
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote:
This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers.

Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^
Ahem, such software is already available http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

OMG, why aren't they all using that graphics ?! (have no idea what it is ....)

It actually makes bw watchable!



It is a resolution hack.


It uses the exact same graphics, sprites, effects, etc, but displays at a higher resolution.


People need to learn what resolution actuly means, i see so many people (not really you, but others) going OMGGGGGG!!11!!11!1!1!!HIGH DEFINITION without actuly having a clue what they are talking about.



Yeah but, since bw is all sprite based, would not a higher resolution enlarge the field of view?

Wouldn't that be cosidered cheating, since you can see more stuff than someone with the normal resolution, without moving the camera?



Yea thats why it is not in game.


It is a resolution hack.


Higher resolution would always enlarge the field of view, in any game with a standard camera, unless you use static scaling like sc2 does - 1280x720 would give the same view field as 1920x1080 - because both are 16: 9 aspect ratio
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
October 25 2011 08:19 GMT
#250
Mh, Flash to dominate SC2?
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
October 25 2011 08:24 GMT
#251
Probably a new KT Rolster sc2 team, hopefully. It would be sad if they just switch over all the bw pros to sc2...
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
October 25 2011 08:27 GMT
#252
I really don't think there will be a SC2 Proleague. That is just Kespa talking about their own wishes, but they don't have the power to decide that on their own. Everyone hates Kespa, so I doubt anyone will let them start a pro league.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 25 2011 08:39 GMT
#253
On October 25 2011 17:27 Clefairy wrote:
I really don't think there will be a SC2 Proleague. That is just Kespa talking about their own wishes, but they don't have the power to decide that on their own. Everyone hates Kespa, so I doubt anyone will let them start a pro league.


What that post actually says is:

"I hate Kespa, and here's some completely irrational and uninformed rant based around that fact".
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 25 2011 10:27 GMT
#254
perhaps they are starting a new DOTA team or playign pandacraft


Live and Let Die!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 25 2011 10:36 GMT
#255
this is pretty cool. whether they're just upgrading or getting a new SC2 team, either is both awesome.
POGGERS
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 14:54:03
October 25 2011 14:50 GMT
#256
On October 25 2011 17:39 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 17:27 Clefairy wrote:
I really don't think there will be a SC2 Proleague. That is just Kespa talking about their own wishes, but they don't have the power to decide that on their own. Everyone hates Kespa, so I doubt anyone will let them start a pro league.


What that post actually says is:

"I hate Kespa, and here's some completely irrational and uninformed rant based around that fact".

No it doesn't. I'm saying that what Kespa are essentially doing with those articles is saying "Hey we want to do an SC2 Pro League, so you guys are going to let us do it". They, and all the people that take the article as meaning there will actually be an SC2 Pro League are getting ahead of themselves. I don't hate Kespa, I'm talking about Gom and Blizzard when I say "everyone (that matters)".
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 25 2011 16:18 GMT
#257
On October 25 2011 16:03 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I would have halved the ram and downgrade the graphics card a bit for an i7 instead. SC2 is more processor reliant.

RAM is so damn cheap these days so that wouldn't help much. And the setup they have is more than enough to comfortably run SC2 on Ultra, stream it and have plenty of power left over.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
October 25 2011 16:35 GMT
#258
On October 25 2011 17:15 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 17:03 PlosionCornu wrote:
On October 25 2011 17:00 Cyro wrote:
On October 25 2011 16:39 Gotmog wrote:
On October 25 2011 03:09 BroodWarHD wrote:
CRT to lcd is more of a down grade though.. even if a 120hz lcd, its still much slowe than the 150-250 HZ crts can push through at BW resolution
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote:
This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers.

Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^
Ahem, such software is already available http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

OMG, why aren't they all using that graphics ?! (have no idea what it is ....)

It actually makes bw watchable!



It is a resolution hack.


It uses the exact same graphics, sprites, effects, etc, but displays at a higher resolution.


People need to learn what resolution actuly means, i see so many people (not really you, but others) going OMGGGGGG!!11!!11!1!1!!HIGH DEFINITION without actuly having a clue what they are talking about.



Yeah but, since bw is all sprite based, would not a higher resolution enlarge the field of view?

Wouldn't that be cosidered cheating, since you can see more stuff than someone with the normal resolution, without moving the camera?



Yea thats why it is not in game.


It is a resolution hack.


Higher resolution would always enlarge the field of view, in any game with a standard camera, unless you use static scaling like sc2 does - 1280x720 would give the same view field as 1920x1080 - because both are 16: 9 aspect ratio


I'm sure there's still the oddball on SC2 that still uses 4:3 resolution, does that mean everyone with a 16: 9 resolution is cheating? I don't really see how it should be different from BW. Just because I can see a bit more on 1 screen doesn't mean I can instantly go on Fish and start pwning koreans. It might even be a hindrance because units are smaller therefore it might be harder to micro.

And iirc launchers like the iccup one are technically hacks aren't they as well? It's all in the wording, it's either a hack, mod, update etc depending on whether you like it or not. It's not like it gives you any tangible in game benefits any more so than something like lan latency.
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 26 2011 13:42 GMT
#259
On October 25 2011 17:00 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 16:39 Gotmog wrote:
On October 25 2011 03:09 BroodWarHD wrote:
CRT to lcd is more of a down grade though.. even if a 120hz lcd, its still much slowe than the 150-250 HZ crts can push through at BW resolution
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote:
This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers.

Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^
Ahem, such software is already available http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

OMG, why aren't they all using that graphics ?! (have no idea what it is ....)

It actually makes bw watchable!



It is a resolution hack.


It uses the exact same graphics, sprites, effects, etc, but displays at a higher resolution.


People need to learn what resolution actuly means, i see so many people (not really you, but others) going OMGGGGGG!!11!!11!1!1!!HIGH DEFINITION without actuly having a clue what they are talking about.


Ty
Yeah, i actually had no clue how it worker
Whether its a mod/hack/whatever ^^
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Shaok
Profile Joined October 2010
297 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 01:31:19
October 27 2011 01:30 GMT
#260
On October 25 2011 17:19 dezi wrote:
Mh, Flash to dominate SC2?


Probably be at the top, but dominate it? Not for quite a few months of playing it. It may have mechanics similar to SCBW but the game is completely changed.
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