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This is what I see happening right now.
- KeSPA is having a bit of financial trouble.
- KeSPA sees the money being put into SC2 (at least on the foreign side) and sees a potential source of income
- KeSPA (rumored) created a subsection of the Proleague to incorporate SC2 into the mix
- KeSPA tells the team their plan to expand their income model and possible offer some sort of subsidy to the teams to improve hardware capabilities beyond BW levels
- KT (and I suspect other teams) upgrade all or at least a serious portion of their hardware to high-end levels (at least SC2, but possibly even beyond in order to account to other titles that KeSPA may begin to support pending popularity)
Now I predict that:
- KT and the other teams will maintain a core BW team, but offer support to perhaps lower level players who really don't have much exposure, but want to try to reach a level of televised games. As well as supporting current top tier players who may wish to possible switch or at least try SC2 without losing these players to foreign or other SC2 teams.
- KT and other KeSPA locked teams will play exclusively in KeSPA regulated tournaments for at least the foreseeable future and act as a kind of hook for Proleague SC2 in a world filled with many other high profile tournaments.
- KeSPA may allow lower level players from KeSPA regulated teams out into foreign events in order to build up global recognition of the teams and Proleague, but also in order to get more views for their sponsors. Putting them in a better negotiating position.
- Evenutally I would assume KeSPA and Gretech would come to some sort of agreement or even partnership in terms of Korean SC2. But not before Proleague SC2 rivals GSL, which may or may not happen pending a whole lot of issues out of their control. Like foreign success for example.
I have a feeling the Korean scene may become artificially split between KeSPA and Gretech. Probably fueled by the BW vs. SC2 debate, but certainly containing a bit of pride by both parties. I don't see KeSPA asking for Gretech's help or "bowing out" to them. They seem too set in their ways and proud to do that. I do get a bit of a feeling that after the KeSPA/Blizzard legal issue, this move is bitter sweet for KeSPA and not something they are necessarily looking forward to at the moment.
I do believe though that KT's upgrade is not a unilateral decision, but one that was probably pushed a bit by KeSPA in order to have at guaranteed source of talent for their SC2 version of Proleague without having to compete for players with the GSL or hope for foreign participation.
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You guys really don't want to accept the writing on the wall, do you?
I'm pretty sure Flash could tap you on the mouth with his organ, wrapped in a cloth that reads "I'm switching to SC2" and you would make some kind of excuses like "it's winter he's just cold and he needs to keep that warm."
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50115 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:36 synergy_sin wrote: You guys really don't want to accept the writing on the wall, do you?
I'm pretty sure Flash could tap you on the mouth with his organ, wrapped in a cloth that reads "I'm switching to SC2" and you would make some kind of excuses like "it's winter he's just cold and he needs to keep that warm."
there has to be some writing on the wall for me to accept.
KT got new PCs and thats pretty much it.
I go by the facts, speculation in the end is just speculation.
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That the sun will rise tomorrow is also just speculation.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50115 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:46 Longshank wrote: That the sun will rise tomorrow is also just speculation.
so you are equating KT getting new PCs=OMG THEY ARE ALL SWITCHING TO STARCRAFT 2 with sun rising tomorrow?
again,sun rising tomorrow is a fact, an undeniable, unalterable fact.
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the rumored sc2 proleague is interesting.
my guess is that kt will particpate in the GSL, cuz they can. And the proleague, meaning multiple teams... not just KT hints that kespa will usher in or create more sc2 teams.
i will be surprised if kespa's sc2 proleague is a open proleague. usually proleague is only for kespa-sanctioned teams only. so either kespa is obtaining the current sc2 teams or adding more computers to the other bw teams.
but so far, the news only indicate KT so... an open proleague of their own may be cool.
as afar as getting the liscense...
doesnt gomtv have to renew their exclusive license? does it apply to HOTS? i dunno
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On October 27 2011 14:52 Lokian wrote: the rumored sc2 proleague is interesting.
my guess is that kt will particpate in the GSL, cuz they can. And the proleague, meaning multiple teams... not just KT hints that kespa will usher in or create more sc2 teams.
i will be surprised if kespa's sc2 proleague is a open proleague. usually proleague is only for kespa-sanctioned teams only. so either kespa is obtaining the current sc2 teams or adding more computers to the other bw teams.
but so far, the news only indicate KT so... an open proleague of their own may be cool.
as afar as getting the liscense...
doesnt gomtv have to renew their exclusive license? does it apply to HOTS? i dunno
Didn't gretech give up their exclusive sc2 license? Thats something else that makes me think this isn't that big of a deal, no other teams have upgraded their computers yet so at the most I think its just going to be KT opening up a SC2 team on top of their bw roster. KT is a pretty big organization with a field hockey team and stuff like that so I think that its natural at a corporate level to get a sc2 team.
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On October 27 2011 15:11 GrapeD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 14:52 Lokian wrote: the rumored sc2 proleague is interesting.
my guess is that kt will particpate in the GSL, cuz they can. And the proleague, meaning multiple teams... not just KT hints that kespa will usher in or create more sc2 teams.
i will be surprised if kespa's sc2 proleague is a open proleague. usually proleague is only for kespa-sanctioned teams only. so either kespa is obtaining the current sc2 teams or adding more computers to the other bw teams.
but so far, the news only indicate KT so... an open proleague of their own may be cool.
as afar as getting the liscense...
doesnt gomtv have to renew their exclusive license? does it apply to HOTS? i dunno Didn't gretech give up their exclusive sc2 license? Thats something else that makes me think this isn't that big of a deal, no other teams have upgraded their computers yet so at the most I think its just going to be KT opening up a SC2 team on top of their bw roster. KT is a pretty big organization with a field hockey team and stuff like that so I think that its natural at a corporate level to get a sc2 team. I think Gretech gave up their BW license, which they weren't using anyways (although they did have a joke BW match on April Fools day for GSL). I think they're still holding onto their exclusive SC2 license for now.
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They had better call the SC2 team Fingerboom.
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On October 27 2011 14:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 14:46 Longshank wrote: That the sun will rise tomorrow is also just speculation. so you are equating KT getting new PCs=OMG THEY ARE ALL SWITCHING TO STARCRAFT 2 with sun rising tomorrow? again,sun rising tomorrow is a fact, an undeniable, unalterable fact.
It's not a fact. It's very likely to happen but it's not a fact. And that's a fact.
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hey their pcs got the same specs as mine, to the letter lol. and i got it to play sc2.
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I am going to assume they either pick up one of the current sc2 teams that don't have sponsors, merging with a team, or some of their B teamers switch and they plan on helping them out or whatever. That is just my guess but I don't think the whole team is going to switch to sc2 or anything.
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I would actually say those specs are relatively normal now... regardless it could be for sc2 eventually.
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Probably, as people speculated, KT Rolster potentially adding on a SC2 team. Doubt there'll be a lot of switches, but maybe a few. Probably, like most pros, a lot of those who can't crack BW or have fallen away. This wouldn't surprise me at all.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50115 Posts
On October 27 2011 15:20 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 14:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 27 2011 14:46 Longshank wrote: That the sun will rise tomorrow is also just speculation. so you are equating KT getting new PCs=OMG THEY ARE ALL SWITCHING TO STARCRAFT 2 with sun rising tomorrow? again,sun rising tomorrow is a fact, an undeniable, unalterable fact. It's not a fact. It's very likely to happen but it's not a fact. And that's a fact.
please explain to me how it is not a fact, preferably via PM because I don't want to derail discussion.
KT should buy MVP if they plan on doing that, and involve col. in the deal too..
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the sun could easily explode and we wouldnt know until like 8 minutes later. so there is a little wiggle room!
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On October 27 2011 16:57 paschl wrote: the sun could easily explode and we wouldnt know until like 8 minutes later. so there is a little wiggle room!
No, I pretty sure the physics of the matter wouldn't allow for it just explode for no reason. It would have to get really messed up by something else to make it unstable enough first.
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On October 27 2011 17:33 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 16:57 paschl wrote: the sun could easily explode and we wouldnt know until like 8 minutes later. so there is a little wiggle room! No, I pretty sure the physics of the matter wouldn't allow for it just explode for no reason. It would have to get really messed up by something else to make it unstable enough first.
sorry i thought the easily gave away that i wasnt quite serious. but theres a lot of things in the universe, there might be some sort of impact or something way more complicated that could make it ex-/implode.
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Would be great if they switched to sc2
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they didn't buy the 24 inch monitors to play bw in a squashed aspect ratio, nor 4:3 with black bars on either side. this is for certain.
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