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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:58 Za7oX wrote: At lair yes. Not straight up from the start. Or there would never be any chance of early dt's doing anything. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Corsair/Dark_Templar_(vs._Zerg) | ||
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Fruitality
Vietnam45 Posts
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:58 XRaDiiX wrote: You're a Genius i never thought of that until now. Zerg just lost their Early/Mid Game Scout (The Overseer) (Until Overlord Speed) Don't say sack slow overlord Cause most of the time its too slow to even scout anything; before getting picked off Overlord speed is extremely fast to research, I hardly ever see overseers being made in pro games at the early stages of the game tbh. Not like it's gonna be the end of the world. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:59 Klyberess wrote: So the proxy gateways in my base will now have quasi-photon cannons attached? Great. Chrono boost would be better for offensive purposes to get the zealots out faster, the arc shield is about as strong as a single marine that can't move. | ||
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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:59 Sakray wrote: Wtf, where's the early-game harass protoss unit they promised ? Holy shit, zerg new ones looks so OP (movable burrowed banelings, srsly WHAT THE FUCK), terrans maybe standard, but protoss...they seem so useless... I was hugely expecting this follow-up, now I'm hugely disappointed... Uh.... the oracle. Disrupts economy. That's a pretty fuckin big deal. It can also draw armies out of position. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
In WOL Zerg and Terran have only a few spell caster while most of Protoss need control and special spell. Now it's getting harder for Zerg and Terran but Protoss still require too much accurate action in controlling battle. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:57 hocash wrote: Fastest DTs come out is 7:30 - if you're scouting correctly you'll see it coming as he has almost no gas units. Attack at 6:30 and it's auto gg if he opens dt. If he warps in sentries...well that just means he won't have dts for a while longer. You can finish a dark shrine before 7:00 if you go zealot-sentry at ramp... and notably earlier if you delay warpgate research and skip the sentry | ||
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badmojogogo
United States2 Posts
Toss and Terran get 3 new units... | ||
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:51 yoigen wrote: You do not need a fucking spire for the Viper. You can make them at lair-tech. First of all, calm down. Second, you're saying that once a Zerg techs to lair, he can begin making vipers without constructing any additional building? That is problematic in itself don't you think? FYI, Spire is lair tech. That means you can build a spire once you have a lair; it doesn't mean you can build mutalisks as soon as lair is done. Finally, to the people saying "lol just build spore". This is not a defensive issue: it's being able engage in the middle of the map/counter attack, instead of waiting till your opponent gains a favorable position near your base. | ||
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
Before I've seen EVERY SINGLE PROTOSS go "OMG CARRIERS ARE SO FREAKING USELESS THE UNIT BARELY EXISTS, WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST ANYWAY?!? HUK GOT DECIMATED VS STEPHANO WHEN HE USED 3-3-3 CARRIERS, I WILL NEVER MAKE THEM AGAIN" And then you got a new cool unit which actually seems useful. How can you possibly be whining about that? | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:01 ayaz2810 wrote: Uh.... the oracle. Disrupts economy. That's a pretty fuckin big deal. It can also draw armies out of position. It's also not exactly early game, seems more like a late mid-game to end game harass. The bubble shield it puts on minerals dies fast if there are units there, you could shut down the oracle harass by putting some units of any kind in all your mineral fields. That means it only works when the enemy is really spread out. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:01 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: They should give that detection thing to the queen. I think it would fit her role very nicely. Thoughts? If she were higher up in the tech tree. Which would fuck you for creep spreading and larva injects. So.... no. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
hahaha only 1 hivemind can be on the battlefield at once and its 1,000 minerals and 15 supply. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:00 ruhrohraggy wrote: Because 4 Hellions don't suddenly make it impossible to take a 3rd. Because Spore Crawlers can't be placed in places where there is no creep. Because, unlike Terran Orbital Commands, Zerg does not have any form of mobile detection until Lair. And in HotS it will come with Vipers, which will be waaaay too late for DTs. It simply won't be possible to take a 3rd against a FFE build going for early DTs because you won't have Lair to poop creep at the 3rd to make a Spore Crawler or to make an Overseer. I can't see why people are not grasping this, it's not that complicated. If the game was released tomorrow this would be a HUGE problem. I'm not QQing, but I am suggesting things will be changed (for all races, and) to allow Zerg to get detection at a reasonable time whether it means Lair takes less time to morph, Overseers are back in, etc. Hell, WoL changed a lot in beta. I'm just amazed that people are confused about this :/ Dt's off forge expand come at about 9 minutes. If you can't get a third done by 9 minutes, you just suck. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:00 a176 wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Corsair/Dark_Templar_(vs._Zerg) Exactly. (On a side note, love that the picture on that page is of corsair/reaver haha) | ||
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lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
Thors are gonna be pretty damn OP with repair. It's going to be a mobile planetary fortress that can shoot air and ground. How is this not a terrible idea? | ||
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