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arsenic
United States163 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:57 vol_ wrote: Kerrigan sounds a lot like Tricia Helfer in this trailer, anyone know who the voice actor is? It is Tricia Helfer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Kerrigan | ||
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Warzilla
Czech Republic311 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:33 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: Okay. Tier 1 is a bad idea, duh. Tier 3 is still a bad idea. Example: Terran on 4-5 bases spread out across the map, trying to push the zerg. Zerg takes one ling, makes it into a bling, burrows and then just sneaks around to an expansion and blow up the scvs. What I'm trying to say is that the terran will be stretched way to thin in defending all his bases. Waste of money to put up turrets everywhere. 150 for a turret is no joke.. Positioning it will be a bitch to make sure it can cover the entire mineral line. Okay, now lets say youve successful managed to establish detection around your new expo. Now how the fuck are you supposed to kill the bings? Okay, hold back a couple marines to deal with the blings (well, now your main army is weaker......... -_-) or set up a planetary. Planatary = less orbitals = less scans = better for zerg as now pretty much everything can burrow and move around. Fuck. This is also a big rip in terran's econ. MULEs are pretty much useless mid-late game, cause you need to scan everything cause zerg will burrow pretty much everything (I'm accounting for people wanting to use the "trendy" new units). All in all, this is a bad idea. Burrowed bligns are a bitch already to deal with. Now you are FORCED to go raven. Banshee and dt work well as they dont do splash damage. As is, SVCs stack when mining... oh god this is such a bad idea. Reavers worked well cause their scarabs were fucking retarded, and you pretty much always knew when and how they were coming.. A reaver drop was never a surprise. Turrets were considerably cheaper and could deal wtih shuttles well. And reavers were slow as fuck lol. The lurker burrow idea was the best. Shit fuck crazy tons amount of damage, but useless when it's unburrowed, and you cannot move when burrowed. Plus the burrow animation took a while, which gave opponents a second to react accordingly (ie, stim in, pick off a lurker and pull out asap). Swarm host is pretty sick as it a lurker replacement. This is a very nice addition [= You mean like other races are fucking FORCED to react to terrans ? Thats right baby not the case anymore | ||
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Lazerlike42
United States104 Posts
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iNotZerg
United States16 Posts
Viper does not provide detection, but instead plants a parasite on a friendly unit so it provides protection. As of right now, you can just give a friendly overlord the detection ability and be done with it, or a drone, or queen. The whole dark swarm thing, Its more of a reverse disruption web. Would probably make Hydras with their buff somewhat useful now. Viper's tongue ability cost 100 mana as of right now. I guess you Protoss players will have to work on that using recall, or protective forcefields, or hallucinations to bait zerg players into grabbing the wrong colossi. Im expecting more Ghost with emp/snipe against zezg now. Burrowed movable banelings probably move very slow. Enough time to just walk away...Granted you have a raven/obs. By zerg tier 3, you should have at least 1 raven. Now the ultra charge is op. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:02 sereniity wrote: I find it funny how every protoss is going OMG CARRIERS REMOVED WTF THEY WERE SO COOL AND FROM BTW ETC... Before I've seen EVERY SINGLE PROTOSS go "OMG CARRIERS ARE SO FREAKING USELESS THE UNIT BARELY EXISTS, WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST ANYWAY?!? HUK GOT DECIMATED VS STEPHANO WHEN HE USED 3-3-3 CARRIERS, I WILL NEVER MAKE THEM AGAIN" And then you got a new cool unit which actually seems useful. How can you possibly be whining about that? Because Carriers are iconic. People wanted them being good not being removed (like Hydras as a core unit) | ||
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:00 ruhrohraggy wrote: Because 4 Hellions don't suddenly make it impossible to take a 3rd. Because Spore Crawlers can't be placed in places where there is no creep. Because, unlike Terran Orbital Commands, Zerg does not have any form of mobile detection until Lair. And in HotS it will come with Vipers, which will be waaaay too late for DTs. It simply won't be possible to take a 3rd against a FFE build going for early DTs because you won't have Lair to poop creep at the 3rd to make a Spore Crawler or to make an Overseer. I can't see why people are not grasping this, it's not that complicated. If the game was released tomorrow this would be a HUGE problem. I'm not QQing, but I am suggesting things will be changed (for all races, and) to allow Zerg to get detection at a reasonable time whether it means Lair takes less time to morph, Overseers are back in, etc. Hell, WoL changed a lot in beta. I'm just amazed that people are confused about this :/ Realized this too but in 12 min there's the multiplayer panel and I hope we get a lot of good answers then! But yeah this is a problem as you need to invest in so much tech to get detection and it takes a lot of time to get there.... | ||
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Andytaker
88 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:02 Whitewing wrote: It's also not exactly early game, seems more like a late mid-game to end game harass. The bubble shield it puts on minerals dies fast if there are units there, you could shut down the oracle harass by putting some units of any kind in all your mineral fields. That means it only works when the enemy is really spread out. I may have missed it. Point me to where I can see the tech path for the Oracle. It very well may be a super early unit. If it's not, then I'll be disappointed. But regardless, what you just described is what it feels like for protoss to spread out to prevent muta harass and drops. It's about time we got something to compete with that. A quick in and out type of unit. WP doesn't really qualify. | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:02 sereniity wrote: I find it funny how every protoss is going OMG CARRIERS REMOVED WTF THEY WERE SO COOL AND FROM BTW ETC... Before I've seen EVERY SINGLE PROTOSS go "OMG CARRIERS ARE SO FREAKING USELESS THE UNIT BARELY EXISTS, WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST ANYWAY?!? HUK GOT DECIMATED VS STEPHANO WHEN HE USED 3-3-3 CARRIERS, I WILL NEVER MAKE THEM AGAIN" And then you got a new cool unit which actually seems useful. How can you possibly be whining about that? It's the principle of it. Carriers should have been fixed to be as glorious as they were in BW but Blizzard took the easy way out and got rid of a long time iconic unit and gave us something else in place of it. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
also agaisnt FFE you can take a very fast third and have spores up before 7 minutes and if there not FFE WTF are you doing taking a fast third? | ||
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midoriiro
United States20 Posts
1. use bio and kite enemy army to nearby Shredder 2. hop in medivac 3. ??? 4 profit! | ||
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psteeleneg
48 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:03 lowercase wrote: I don't think anyone's commented on this yet, so I'll mention it here: Thors are gonna be pretty damn OP with repair. It's going to be a mobile planetary fortress that can shoot air and ground. How is this not a terrible idea? They removed it's anti-air cannons and replaced it with the single-player ground aoe attack. Flock of mutas can take it down while the bounce kills the repairing scv's | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:04 Lazerlike42 wrote: Thinking about it, the Arc Shield is effectively a gigantic cannon rush buff. If it does 20 damage to light, you basically have to kill any warping pylons before they finish. You can't just dedicate your workers to killing the probe anymore, because if the pylon finishes, even if you kill the first one a second probe can set up a cannon safely. Incoming cannon rushes all day long brah. Seriously though, I would imagine that Blizz will get the balance right to prevent the kind of madness that COULD happen. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
occular parasite "allows it to detach its eye stalk and meld it onto any friendly, non-massive unit, turning that unit into a detector." Basically the spell is a one-time use and once the detecting unit dies, you have to build another viper to get mobile detection up again. I think zerg might have a big problem with detection if they don't make a bunch of preemptive vipers, losing your detectors in battle and not having the ability to morph overseers quickly could really fuck someone over. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:02 sereniity wrote: I find it funny how every protoss is going OMG CARRIERS REMOVED WTF THEY WERE SO COOL AND FROM BTW ETC... Before I've seen EVERY SINGLE PROTOSS go "OMG CARRIERS ARE SO FREAKING USELESS THE UNIT BARELY EXISTS, WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST ANYWAY?!? HUK GOT DECIMATED VS STEPHANO WHEN HE USED 3-3-3 CARRIERS, I WILL NEVER MAKE THEM AGAIN" And then you got a new cool unit which actually seems useful. How can you possibly be whining about that? or they could have just removed the dumbfuck corrupter | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:03 Teoita wrote: Dt's off forge expand come at about 9 minutes. If you can't get a third done by 9 minutes, you just suck. I doubt rushing DT's will suddenly become a viable option for a protoss. If he rushes DT's ASAP to stop you from taking a fast third (which you'd only do anyway if he went FFE for example, which really slows DT's down), he's not exactly even with you if all he manages to accomplish is to delay your third. DT's are bloody expensive man. | ||
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Andytaker
88 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:04 Andytaker wrote: Forge Expand into DT Rush-> Deny 3rd until 11 Minutes -> Huge Lead 2 base zerg being inferior to 2 base protoss is not really THAT BAD, really its not that big of a deal, im starting to see more and more zergs comfortably take a fourth base while denying the protoss third. With your new siege units and larvae mechanics, a macro hatch, even if you couldnt take a third til 11 minutes you wouldnt be out of the game by any means | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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