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TxT
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway7 Posts
October 21 2011 21:21 GMT
#3461
Time to make my hydras good against Colossi. Drag me the colossi! :D
CrAzEdMiKe
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada151 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3462
I'm so glad I'm a Protoss player. I'll take the Tempest over Carrier any day... I wish the video showed the Tempest using it's ground attack.
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3463
Rest ye well, colossus in PvZ. You were a formidable enemy and caused many a tear in your day.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3464
On October 22 2011 06:18 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 06:11 Maxie wrote:
On October 22 2011 06:05 Grummler wrote:
On October 22 2011 06:00 Maxie wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:56 Capped wrote:
Replicants, see's tank, makes tank. Terran fucked.


Replicants, see's tank, gets shot in the face by tank. Protoss fucked.

Unless you can do some absurd copying with observers giving the replicant twice the LoS as usual, the tank's range should be able to shoot the replicant in the face, if it's sieged.


Troll, starts trolling, tell him he is wrong. Troll fucked.

And thats why you are wrong: its at 1:40



How did he get LoS that far, up a hill? Observer? Also, do you have to call me a troll because of that?

Sorry for not analysing it in slow motion for 5 minutes before responding to him, in case you didn't notice, the video is very fast paced.


Well, sorry for the "troll", but i am just getting sick of a certain posting patter in this thread:

1. Make random false statement
2. Follow it up with a racial bias

Also i dont think you need to watch that movie in slow motion several times. Its pretty obvious that the replicants are not at melee range. And yeah, there was probably an observer nearby. But so what, its not like protoss never uses observers to get vision on high ground. And you could do the exact same thing on low ground without an observer but with *insert random protoss unit* giving vision. So i think the replicant could be a very strong unit. Doesnt have to be though, depends on its cost etc.


I never said anything about melee range, I thought of the fact that a siege tank actually can shoot further than it's own LoS, and I didn't really expect the replicant to have an insane LoS. That's what I'm wondering, at the moment - in the video there's only LoS on the whole screen, I didn't see an observer either, so I wonder exactly how big it's LoS is, if you can copy anything you can see even if the replicant is miles away, etc.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3465
On October 22 2011 06:18 XRaDiiX wrote:
Anyone Else see the Possibilities here with the Replicant Lol you can Turn them into MULES

And Mass Recall them to Your NEXUS!

You must understand this protoss you now have Mules!

I got the dumbest grin on my face right now.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3466
On October 22 2011 06:21 tehemperorer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 06:18 XRaDiiX wrote:
Anyone Else see the Possibilities here with the Replicant Lol you can Turn them into MULES

And Mass Recall them to Your NEXUS!

You must understand this protoss you now have Mules!

It would probably be easier to make a bunch of replicants, a robo and a stargate, and make 1 immo and 1 void ray. Have the replicants replicate either of the two, then just attack with a mass of them and not allow opponent to react


Then he makes Marines...

Darn.
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3467
On October 22 2011 06:17 whoopadeedoo wrote:
Burrow movement banelings is insane. They're like moving spider mines. I think this is one of the first abilities that's going to get a serious nerf.

It's hive tech. You have no excuse for not having detection out by then. If they are massing up loads of them to kill your mineral lines they will have insufficient vespene gas for other units to defend your inevitable push
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3468
Uhhh, wow, dunno what to say. So many crazy new spells and shit there's no telling how it'll work until we see the pros playing it.

It's going to be messy as fuck for a while though, that's for sure.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 21:24:52
October 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#3469

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MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bovineblitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
October 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#3470
On October 22 2011 06:21 McFeser wrote:
Next time Blizzard gets ready to announce new units I am going to spend the week before making my own fake knockoffs, then leaking them to general public to ensue mass confusion


Make them ugly and ridiculous and people will believe they're real after the HoTS reveal.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
October 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#3471
mass recall on nexus seems pretty crazy,

the other changes seem... ok.
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
October 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#3472
Those changes sound incredibly weird. I dont really know what to think about it at all. Im really eager to try it out.
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
October 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#3473
Zerg units are great! Terran units are also great! Protoss now has a dedicated harass unit!

God I love Blizzard sometimes.
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
October 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#3474
THE CARRIER AND MOTHERSHIP GONE!?!?!?! protoss race seems dead to me now sadly. All these years loyal to auir, and they take away the OG unit carrier!!!
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
October 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3475
On October 22 2011 06:22 GGTesomas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 06:17 whoopadeedoo wrote:
Burrow movement banelings is insane. They're like moving spider mines. I think this is one of the first abilities that's going to get a serious nerf.

It's hive tech. You have no excuse for not having detection out by then. If they are massing up loads of them to kill your mineral lines they will have insufficient vespene gas for other units to defend your inevitable push


see, i'm not the only one who says it's tier 3. sigh
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
October 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3476
On October 22 2011 06:22 Hollis wrote:
Rest ye well, colossus in PvZ. You were a formidable enemy and caused many a tear in your day.


Best One Liner Ever
Never GG MKP | IdrA
oopee
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland9 Posts
October 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3477
Only one thor, boo. I hope they're not changing the CE edition Thor skin.
On the upside, looking forward to winter maps & terran mech.

What's the idea behind the ghost cloak change?
15.5.2012
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
October 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3478
It's gonna be sweet killing expos all over the place and recalling without worry.
Glacial
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom124 Posts
October 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3479
On October 22 2011 06:11 roymarthyup wrote:
mutas are going to be dead and worthless against toss now


all nexus's get a free mothership over it . i used to rush motherships against zerg to counter muta. mutas strength is their mobility, and mass recall countered mutalisks nicely and allowed me to defend 4+ bases

however now against zerg every single nexus gets a free mothership.... every nexus can use mass recall holy crap mutas will be dead against protoss completely


Yeah, it looks like its going to give the Protoss some great mobility. But it means that if the Protoss player want to use it in that fashion then they are not going to be using many if ANY chronoboosts on unit/research production. Not only that, but say you see an army recalled on top of your mutalisks, what do you do? Fly away. The same as if you would when you encounter blink stalkers. Then what? That nexus has lost 75/100 energy and they can't recall to that base again for ages... I don't think it negates muta harrass, just changes the nature of it somewhat.
Canadium
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada171 Posts
October 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3480
So it's pretty much a new game.... That's cool. I'm anxious to see how it plays.
You better run Charles....
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