That was insane. Some people had said the Replicant had to be melee range. I guess not! That's very, very scary to imagine a Toss army backed by tanks.

Less reason to go mech then ever, right? I guess we'll have to wait and see how things pan out.

Lunares

United States909 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2444

http://twitter.com/#!/aceanuu

Apparently thor is like the mothership now? You can only have 1 of them? That's stupid =(

Hopefully it will actually be worth building.

xsevR

United States324 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2445

On October 22 2011 03:54 CmdrDashy wrote:
the replicant doesn't seem as useful for stealing units but for changin your own unit composition to react extremely quickly to the opponents compostion. Like when facing the 1/1/1 you don't know how many banshees the terran will make so if you only create a few stalkers to combat the marine tank you lose. With replicants you could see the composition and then change accordingly.

this stealing other units seems far to hard to do in large enough numbers to make it worth while and even then the replicated units would be rigght next to the oppoenents units and therefore dead.

That's really smart. Maybe replicants are meant to be able to give flexibility to the unit composition rather than just stealing enemy units.

And why would they make thor the terran "hero" unit while removing mothership (not revamping, even though the last patch did)??? makes 0 sense.

XRaDiiX

Canada1730 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2446

Anyone find it kind of Weird that there is 2 new units for Zerg in HOTS and Zerg had alot less units in WOL so there are 3 new Units for Protoss and Terran LOL? This makes even more new units for Terran and Protoss relative to Zergs unique Units lol.

Otori

Sweden164 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2447

On October 22 2011 03:52 Whitewing wrote:

Show nested quote +

That's pretty cool mind you, but it'd be nice to be able to actually kill the workers rather than just disable them for a short time, like, you know, banshees and hellions etc.

Sure, give all terran units shield like toss have and i'm fine with you having a banshee/hellion.

Vehemus

United States586 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2448

So #1, Marauders are definitely in the game as you can see when the Ultralisks are on the field.

#2, I thought they were showcasing the ability to pull a friendly unit with those ultralisks, but I definitely did not see any other zerg unit on the field. It appears to me that the ultralisk has a burrow and charge skill which you can use to actually get decent damage in with your ultras.

Roynalf

Finland886 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2449

omg Luigi and Mario at the crowd

Tppz!

Germany1449 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2450

"Thors are 600 minerals now and require a fusion core. Theyve got the aoe ability from single player. real ly cool"

"You can only have 1 thor at a time now,.a la mothership"

Shit just got real O.o

a176

Canada6688 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2451

How ... what ... carrier ...

KillerPlague

United States1386 Posts

October 21 2011 19:02 GMT

#2452

it's not actually leaked if blizzard wanted you to see it

ceaRshaf

Romania4926 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2453

Here are all the changes presented in the clip.

TheGlassface

United States612 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2454

I love how they don't do anything with cliffwalking.
One unique thing they attempt and an entire design team can't manage to exploit it.

Toss harass will be from the recall, that oracle is about annoying and that's it. Annnnd it's just the overseer.
Tempest? Seriously? You couldn't just fix the carrier...or the mothership?
Wtf is this hook? I didn't mean to download LoL or DotA...oh...at least it has a rehash spell
Replicant? Oh, so rather than fix the Toss ground army...you can just make a new one
Goli....warhound is back..er...here. Cool?
The Hellion...becomes...a firebat?
This shredder is garbage and yet another fail rehash. Just a neutered spider mine

Ultralisks can charge. Good idea, solves an issue in an intelligent way and makes use of burrow.
Banelings moving. Cool. Again, good idea here and explores the races identity. **Even if banelings are just neutered scourge.
Just lose the corruptor. Quit adding shitty spells to units. This is not TFT. Oh wait...yes it is lawl

And they're even out of ideas for WoW. I can't believe people still play that game.

I)etox

1240 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2455

for people who can't find the stream (it's under streams on the right side of TL...)

http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/?stream=sc2

Treva

United States535 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2456

Not a big fan of how SC2 is going. Another "control my opponent's unit" ability comes out as well as the disable mining ability as well as that new corrupter ability..I mean come on only worker/mules should be able to give income don't start giving units that ability.

I'm just not a fan of how players are getting more and more of a say in how their opponent positions their army and how getting a lead in a game is getting less and less meaningful. Don't like that unit positioning in the back of your opponent's army? Just pull it forward. Your opponent expo'd before you? Just disable mining. Idk just seems kind of stupid.

Lunares

United States909 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2457

On October 22 2011 04:02 XRaDiiX wrote:
Anyone find it kind of Weird that there is 2 new units for Zerg in HOTS and Zerg had alot less units in WOL so there are 3 new Units for Protoss and Terran LOL? This makes even more new units for relative to Zergs unique Units lol.

a.) As far as we know Zerg didn't LOSE any units. Terran lost the thor (ish) and Protoss lost carrier and mothership.

b.) Protoss got the oracle which is questionable in it's usefuleness and one of the terran units is just a transformation. Both zerg units are brand new + a bunch of new abilities that we can see (moveable burrowed banelings, ultralisk burrow charge, etc).

So no zerg didn't get shafted.

0neder

United States3733 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2458

Carriers have been seeing more use, HongUn has used them recently. They shouldn't have been axed. Boo.

mumakil

Finland33 Posts

October 21 2011 19:03 GMT

#2459

Thors are 600 minerals now and require a fusion core. Theyve got the aoe ability from single player.You can only have 1 thor at a time now,.a la mothership

K_osss

United States113 Posts

October 21 2011 19:04 GMT

#2460

I'll reserve judgement on the tempest until i see it in action althought seems better than the carrier for 2 reasons:
-Cost/buildtime reduction is major especially the 120sec to 75 seconds

-Carrier only did single target dps, at least tempest does air aoe (of course subject to balance so we'll see how it turns out). Their ground based attacks are still single target so no major change there.
The Oracle will be interesting. Personally i'd rather kill harvesters but if they make the mineral deny be cheap and easy to apply from range i could go for that. i think it has to be at least one of those things because the enemy get's to keep there harvester which can be used for other things/at a later time.